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Rishi Sunak - "a man is a man, a woman is a woman"

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Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:44

..and how we shouldn't be bullied into believing somebody can be any sex that they want.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJcxUehh/

AIBU to want to give him a round of applause?

I know, it's convenient timing and obviously a strategy move but how good is it to hear that straight from the horses mouth when the country has spent the past god knows how long bowing down to the loud and often disturbed minority.

I still can't stand the Tories and won't be voting for them but cheers for acknowledging the insanity, Rishi.

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Finteq · 04/10/2023 21:45

YABU.

He is literally coming out with any old crap right now if he thinks it will get him re-elected.

DustyLee123 · 04/10/2023 21:46

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Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:47

Finteq · 04/10/2023 21:45

YABU.

He is literally coming out with any old crap right now if he thinks it will get him re-elected.

The tories are not electable, but his statement might pave the way for everybody else to stop pandering to the BS. If he's going to come out with any old crap I'm thrilled he chose this 🙂

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Spinet · 04/10/2023 21:49

Welcome to Mumsnet op! What brings you to these parts other than the latest votebait mumblings of our esteemed PM?

PonyPatter44 · 04/10/2023 21:49

This is the epitome of the "monkeys with typewriters " concept, except that Titchy Rishi hasn't got a typewriter. He spews out such a lot of utter rubbish, that by the sheer law of averages, he will occasionally make a normal truthful statement.

Hes still an ass of a politician, however.

Icedlatteplease · 04/10/2023 21:50

Nope. Knowing what a woman is does not make up for Destroying A levels.

Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:50

Spinet · 04/10/2023 21:49

Welcome to Mumsnet op! What brings you to these parts other than the latest votebait mumblings of our esteemed PM?

Style & beauty usually with the odd moan about my DH and or DC for good measure. You?

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ChannelyourinnerElsa · 04/10/2023 21:51

PonyPatter44 · 04/10/2023 21:49

This is the epitome of the "monkeys with typewriters " concept, except that Titchy Rishi hasn't got a typewriter. He spews out such a lot of utter rubbish, that by the sheer law of averages, he will occasionally make a normal truthful statement.

Hes still an ass of a politician, however.

I’m no fan, but I don’t think stooping to refer to him as Titchy does any of his opposition any favours.

MidnightOnceMore · 04/10/2023 21:52

Fucking hell. It was a crap speech full of nothing.

Clap away if you like. He's not going to do anything of any worth.

Abergale · 04/10/2023 21:52

What’s with the start of that clip: “life means life” remark he makes? Does he mean we should all enjoy life or something else?

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Thinkingofbankruptcy · 04/10/2023 21:53

Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:44

..and how we shouldn't be bullied into believing somebody can be any sex that they want.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJcxUehh/

AIBU to want to give him a round of applause?

I know, it's convenient timing and obviously a strategy move but how good is it to hear that straight from the horses mouth when the country has spent the past god knows how long bowing down to the loud and often disturbed minority.

I still can't stand the Tories and won't be voting for them but cheers for acknowledging the insanity, Rishi.

Thank god he finally fucking said it.

they’ll win the election on the back of that.

Finteq · 04/10/2023 21:54

Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:47

The tories are not electable, but his statement might pave the way for everybody else to stop pandering to the BS. If he's going to come out with any old crap I'm thrilled he chose this 🙂

YABU being unreasonable to think he deserves a round of applause.

He would have said the exact opposite if he thought that was the more popular opinion.

I'm not commenting on how this affects the trans debate, but instead commenting on whether he deserves a round of applause.

And people who say not what they truly believe but instead what they think people want to hear or will make them more popular- do not deserve applause.

Timmytap18 · 04/10/2023 21:54

Blah blah blah its what some people want to hear and he's desperate to stay in power. No applause required 🙄

KissKiss29 · 04/10/2023 21:55

Why can't the rest of them say it? I just find it all ridiculous.

Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:55

Icedlatteplease · 04/10/2023 21:50

Nope. Knowing what a woman is does not make up for Destroying A levels.

It doesn't do that no, but it does validate the silent majority who have been bullied into going along with this bizarre gender narrative. I think that's very important indeed.

I hate the tories with a passion but I'm also passionate about women's rights and I will be thrilled every time an "important" person goes public with a statement like that.

People need to hear 'those in charge' pushing back against it.

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Insommmmnia · 04/10/2023 21:56

Well of course the Tories know who a woman is. How else would they know how to disadvantage women with their policies which make it harder to be a single parent (mostly women), working parents with more childcare responsibilities (mostly women), disabled (higher proportion are women) etc etc etc

Knowing who a woman is is not the same as making policies that make life better for women.

Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:56

Abergale · 04/10/2023 21:52

What’s with the start of that clip: “life means life” remark he makes? Does he mean we should all enjoy life or something else?

Prison sentences I think.

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Finteq · 04/10/2023 21:58

Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:55

It doesn't do that no, but it does validate the silent majority who have been bullied into going along with this bizarre gender narrative. I think that's very important indeed.

I hate the tories with a passion but I'm also passionate about women's rights and I will be thrilled every time an "important" person goes public with a statement like that.

People need to hear 'those in charge' pushing back against it.

Again- he would have said the exact opposite if he thought that was the more popular opinion.

BitOutOfPractice · 04/10/2023 21:59

If you think this makes the Tories electable, you truly are delusional.

Mamai90 · 04/10/2023 21:59

Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:47

The tories are not electable, but his statement might pave the way for everybody else to stop pandering to the BS. If he's going to come out with any old crap I'm thrilled he chose this 🙂

I wouldn't be so sure. There are plenty on here who'll be willing to give him the vote on the back of this alone.

I'm sorry he's said anything, I'm more concerned about the Tories getting back in. If they do, we are absolutely fucked.

NoNoHellaNoNoHellaNoNo · 04/10/2023 22:00

I’d be more inclined to give him a round of applause if he hadn’t just leapt on this issue in a desperate attempt to find something, anything that might possibly make the next election less of a massacre.

As many people on here have pointed out, paying lip service is one thing. Actually doing to something about it is quite another - what is he actually going to DO?

CheshireCat1 · 04/10/2023 22:00

Where I’m from you don’t get a round of applause for “stating the bleeding obvious”

Ellos · 04/10/2023 22:02

KissKiss29 · 04/10/2023 21:55

Why can't the rest of them say it? I just find it all ridiculous.

Pandering, IMO. Progression gone too far.

You can't say "trans women are not women" these days without being accused of a hate crime and threatened with arrest. Gender critical people often lose their job if they're honest about being GC.

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KimberleyClark · 04/10/2023 22:02

Thinkingofbankruptcy · 04/10/2023 21:53

Thank god he finally fucking said it.

they’ll win the election on the back of that.

You actually want that?

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