Rishi Sunak - "a man is a man, a woman is a woman"

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..and how we shouldn't be bullied into believing somebody can be any sex that they want.

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AIBU to want to give him a round of applause?

I know, it's convenient timing and obviously a strategy move but how good is it to hear that straight from the horses mouth when the country has spent the past god knows how long bowing down to the loud and often disturbed minority.

I still can't stand the Tories and won't be voting for them but cheers for acknowledging the insanity, Rishi.

evidence, evidence, evidence. I don't care what you think. I care what the evidence says and if you actually cared about women, so would you.

Yep. Stating by your second post in a thread how transphobic people are is never a sign that you wish to actually engage.

And have you got any evidence at all yet that the group you are discussing is more marginalised than the women you are determined to ignore are negatively impacted?

Can you produce evidence today that a male person changes to being non-male to back up your constant declarations that human sex is not binary and transitioned males are not male?

Do you understand the fundamental issues that basing laws and policies on your personal opinion that is not based on material reality creates for women and children?

So therefore, can you start today with actually evidencing your statements please? Let’s have that discussion rather than your accusations of hate and transphobia and misrepresenting feminists positions.

Sure thing, your opinions about me have been repeatedly stated and well noted. 👍🏻

I could of course share my opinion about you and your posts. I don’t really see the point and it hardly advances the actual conversation here.

People can read my posts and see that I have meaningfully engaged on a range of substantive issues throughout the thread .

what would is definitions and evidence. sp share some. oh and stop insulting people with infantile accusations of transphobia.

You've dodged every inconvenient question you don't want to answer.

How do men magically turn into women because they say so?

It's good to start the day with a laugh!!!!!!!!!!!

tell us again what the definition of woman is??!!!

Just as you make accusations based on your personal definition of transphobia, which you then expect women to accept, you should be just as willing to accept that feminists think you are anti-women.

Do you see how that works?

You really do seem stuck in a hypocritical circle.

Thats my view as well.

There are soooo many easy things the tories could do to help women and girls (and children in general) but what he has done is cut the funding for SENDS, i was out yesterday and saw the child i know who will be affected by this, its so wrong, they need this additional help, its also so short sighted.

Sunak could make good the funding from his own pocket and not notice it at all.

Its also good Labour winning yesterday in Scotland.

It's those all consuming ladyfeelz.

It’s not my personal definition. I explained it clearly up thread using definitions of words.
if you can find a trans person who doesn’t find this entire thread disgustingly transphobic and beleive your platitudes about “supporting trans rights” I’ll eat my hat.

Has Feminism taken on an alternative meaning?

No feminist I know would refuse to answer simple questions on women's safety from males.

I’m not going to accept it, because it’s not true. But, yes, you are welcome to think that if you want to and I accept there’s not much I can do about that except clarify that I am not anti woman, I am a woman and a feminist 🤷🏼‍♀️

The actual conversation here is that Sunak made a statement that you don’t agree with but you are unable/unwilling to support your argument with facts.

Yes we get that. Women having boundaries and refusing to believe everything a man says about himself is disgustingly transphobic.

This is why posters are calling you anti women.

there are transwomen who say transwomen are not men so get scoffing.

No idea what this means

Well you self identify as a feminist but don't care to protect biological women and no amount of patronising shrug emoji is going to square that circle.

you'd best eat your hat because not all trans people are anti Rishi speaking the truth.

If they think you have ‘meaningfully engaged’, I suggest they look up both words in the dictionary. You have not meaningfully engaged at all.

To do so would be to produce factually based discussion and evidence to support it. And then discuss how that works in reality and discuss the impacts and solutions.

Again, many people support the rights of trans people. You commented how that made you sick with and immature emoji for emphasis. Do you believe that is a mature approach to discussion?

You call people ‘nasty’ when if it was a personal attack and genuinely ‘nasty’ it would be deleted.

No. meaningful engagement means answering challenging questions and finding evidence that will support your thoughts and claims.

I have seen no sign of that on this or other threads when you post.

It is though. Once you get past the sloganeering and pat phrasing.

Males and females are different. That's all women here are saying, really. Different bodies, different needs.

That's why women need specific rights and protections.

40 pages and we still haven't had an answer to how men turn into women.

Your opinions about me and my posts , on this and on other threads , are also well noted.