Rishi Sunak - "a man is a man, a woman is a woman"

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..and how we shouldn't be bullied into believing somebody can be any sex that they want.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJcxUehh/

AIBU to want to give him a round of applause?

I know, it's convenient timing and obviously a strategy move but how good is it to hear that straight from the horses mouth when the country has spent the past god knows how long bowing down to the loud and often disturbed minority.

I still can't stand the Tories and won't be voting for them but cheers for acknowledging the insanity, Rishi.

that it’s not possible to get pregnant if you don’t have a uterus?

Why are you so nasty? Why does mumsnet allow people to speak to each other this way?

@Tandora Im sorry this question is worded so badly but it's late. I'll try again. -

A 'transwoman' goes to 'their' doctor and asks for tests as to why 'they' are not able to fall pregnant. Would the doctor test the 'transwoman' for illnesses?

ok, and why does this 'transwoman' not have a uterus?

The reasons for that being that they are as male as any other male person. A fact you've been trying to dodge for 37 pages because then we'd have to talk truthfully about women's spaces that have men in them.

because the women here care about childrens safety, the safety of vulnerable women. being raped by a man is 1 billion times worse that someone being 'nasty'.get a grip. If a few words on a screen bother you, just imagine for one moment what it feels like for female victims of male violence and then have a little compassion for women who don't want men in their spaces.

Can I be clear with you- I don’t give a shit what you do or don’t believe about me, it’s of no consquence whatsoever.

I haven’t read the rest of your post.

why are you so nasty? I'm a sexual abuse survivor but you think I should share a hospital ward with a male bodied person who offends at the same rate as other males. That's a whole other level of nasty I'd say.

When getting tied in knots, it's helpful to go right back to basics.

If sex is not grounded in biological fact, it becomes meaningless as a category:

If a "trans woman" is a "woman" just with a different body, then what defines the category "woman", without ending up with a circular reference?

I don't doubt you. People as hugely uncaring as you tend not to bother to listen to others. Thanks for being explicit about that.

indeed and why do we need separate spaces? e.g sports. If women do not have a biological disadvantage why do we need women's and men's football. why not just one team?

A doctor would say to a 'transwoman' ; you cannot get pregnant because you are a man and men cannot get pregnant. You could never get pregnant, you will never be able to get pregnant and you never should have been able to get pregnant.

this is the definitive difference between males and females

@Tandora before I go to sleep I just wanted to offer you some solidarity - don’t let the b*s grind you down.

I remember you accusing women discussing medical treatments for children and adolescents ignorant and hateful. From your first post on the thread.

Yet you are here telling people
that they are nasty? For asking you to back up what you claim?

Or did you miss this poster telling me to ‘grow the fuck up’ and decided that I was the one who was in the wrong?

I mean, if you cannot back up your claims, please say it very clearly from the start that your opinions are not evidence based .

Mumsnet has always been 'robust'. My advice - avoid parking threads or discussing how often you wash towels.

I’m am also sexual abuse survivor. A survivor of CSA , and it’s ok for me to disagree with your opinions about public policy and to express my own,

What is nasty and not ok is telling people to “grow the fuck up” because they disagree with you. Being a survivor of sexual abuse doesn’t excuse your behaviour.

or in other words ' continue to spout nonsense and ignore reality and facts, much like flat-earther conspiracists'

I think this is bad advice.

Thank you ❤️❤️

I'm sure Tandora will sleep much better knowing that another anti woman poster is awake this late!

I’ve been there, and I know it’s not fun

a transwoman is someone who is male. They will always be male, have always been male, and will always be male. Nothing will ever change this fact. The earth is round.

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Go to a farmer and ask him if he cuts the balls of his bull and calls her Shirley, will she be a cow. They'd love the laugh.

what excuses your behaviour? you want to create a situation where more women and girls.can be abused. have you no empathy?

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It really is remarkable that some
people want laws and policies to be set based on pseudoscience that declares falsities such as sex is not binary, isn’t it?

This is misinformation and it is very harmful to women and girls.

Yet, we are nasty for pushing back on misinformation. We are nasty for stating categorically that male people are male and no special groups of males should be treated differently for safeguarding. Ever again. Lessons were obviously not learned from past history.