Rishi - A man is a man and a woman is a woman. That’s just common sense

[WallaceinAnderland]

Looked for a thread on this but couldn't see one. BBC reporting this statement by RIshi Sunak today.

"We shouldn’t get bullied into believing that people can be any sex they want to be - they can’t," he says. "A man is a man and a woman is a woman. That’s just common sense."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-67001483/page/2

This.

People using the phrase 'dog whistle' is a fucking dog whistle.

This is true, too.

I think there is a really cynical aspect to Rishi's sudden dawning realisation that women's sex based rights might actually be important to some voters. The rest of his policies aren't reassuring.
I feel manipulated.

Yes, this is the important thing. Sunk has got, what? five months? to put his money where his mouth is and actually get this sorted.

Good for him it's about time someone in authority stood up and said it . If he can then we all can with no consequences.

We need a letter writing campaign to get him and Keegan to do what they said they were going to do.

https://members.parliament.uk/member/4680/contact

In Scotland what he said would be a hate crime soon

police special unit are getting their traing on this

You used to get booted off here if you said that

Keir can say he agrees with Rishi all he likes. The loony left will pile on him, and he'll flip flop.
I was a labour voter up until Corbyn. I don't trust them with women's issues at all, their lunatic fringe have the power and the loudest voices. I've witnessed the awful damage this ideology can do at first hand. I am a one issue voter. I cannot afford to be anything else.

In Scotland absolutely anything at all can be a hate incident. No evidence required, no corroboration required. There is no definition and no threshhold to meet. And you can report anonymously, online!

hooray!

It's also got us all talking about this and not the axing of the HS2 project.

Hes not throwing anybody under the bus. He's just stating common sense.

"Is there anything more emblematic of 13 years of dismal failure by this broken government than their flagship levelling-up project that fails to even reach the North?" shadow transport secretary Louise Haigh

Today's announcements "will help fuel the views of those who argue that we can no longer think or act for the long-term as a country". David Cameron.

The word "change" was mentioned 30 times as Sunak sought to position himself as the "change candidate" at next year's general election - something that's not an easy task after 13 years of Conservative rule

Oh my god...nobody hates trans people.

Nobody wants to deny transgender people the right to food, healthcare, education, voting rights or whatever. But trans ideology of "people being able to change their sex" contrasts common sense. We do not hate them. But we shouldn't let TRAS bully us into accepting fantasy as reality.

I think Starmer will flip flop until / or unless he gets a working majority. If he doesn't then I think he'll be toast anyway. (Angela Rayner for next leader? Possibly leading some kind of hung parliament too? This is what I'm trying with weigh up and it's a head fuck.)

If he does win comfortably then I think we might find out where he stands. The trouble is that I don't know whether I'm correct in thinking a majority could give him the confidence to sort out his activists or whether other posters are correct and that he'll sell our sex based rights down the river.

What I do know is that I bitterly resent being strong armed by Labour into taking such a gamble. I don't think they have a clue how much self-damage they have done.

Everyone bar a few zealots and lunatics is absolutely sick of this shit, and Sunak knows it.

Great it’s plain speaking

It’s not enough but a start

I don't think this issue happened in that simple a way.

This ideology, and the capture of the civil service, went on in a very underhanded way. Very few people have understood the implications until the last few years, and its likely that any party that had been in power would have embraced a similar approach. Although if you look at the transcripts of discussions in the HoL about things like the GRA, it is mostly Tories who seemed to see the potential problems.

This targeting of the civil service and quasi-governmental groups was very deliberate, and deliberately quietly done.

The tendency to look to special interest/lobby groups for policy directive in special areas of interest, and especially representing identity groups, has been going on for a while. The left really embraced this as they were seen, unlike political people, as having expertise, lived experience, even a kind of political impartiality. As for Stonewall in particular - people seem to forget sometimes just how well regarded they were as an organization. They could do no wrong, were seen as the gold standard for education, and the fact that they endorsed gender ideology is one of the main reasons it was so readily accepted.

The problem now is how to root it out. The Tories are struggling., but trying. Will Labour even try? My gut feeling is they will not take things further but won't address any of teh institutional capture.

It’s clear it’s being lead by women now, compared to 2015

Some politicians prefer not to listen to any women. That’s not preferable

I believe Sunak cares for his own daughters, but not for the nation's children.

He will not get my vote.

It's hardly controversial and obvious he just trying to stoke the culture war. He can gtf.

If it’s not controversial why would it stoke anything?

It was only months ago when certain posters were up and down the boards telling women to put their 'single issue' away because nobody was interested, politicians weren't interested and the general public weren't interested.

And yet here we are at the last conference before an election and Rishi can see the leverage in setting it out as a wedge issue.

He also thinks all students should do 5 A levels and maths and English until 18. Not entirely convinced his finger is on the pulse of the average Briton...