Mary Harrington - Why are so many transgender prisoners sex offenders?

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https://open.substack.com/pub/reactionaryfeminist/p/how-many-sex-offenders?r=clsg2&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Even evidence that prisoners are de-transitioning once they leave prison is not really evidence that they were not trans whilst in prison. How is this any different from the likes of Eddie Izzard who IDs as a woman for political purposes and a man when he wants a juicy acting role?

No, I still disagree with this from your earlier post:

No they don’t play an important part at all in our behaviours.

Are you now agreeing with me that hormones can influence behaviour? The key word is influence. Not that hormones take over so that people no longer have control of their actions. Although some people find it easier than others to control their actions. And some people are more affected by their hormones than others.

I'm not sure why you find this so difficult to understand.

I don’t need to submit evidence as this is not a court trial. I am confident that if anyone takes the time to read the more recent studies on the causes of violence they will come to a very similar informed opinion.

Perhaps you could post a link or two to help us out.

https://torontosun.com/news/national/study-finds-nearly-45-of-trans-women-inmates-convicted-of-sex-crimes

So what is the explanation for the number of transwoman prisoners being sex offenders? Is there a link between violent behaviour towards children and women and the desire of the man to be accepted as a woman?

The % sex offenders among convicts could be high because transwomen do not murder as often as men (for example).

Evidence?

Men having 90% of the murderers is going to make any other offence % of convicts very very small.

What do you mean by this?

I was disagreeing with this statement:
Sex hormones and hormone fluctuations play a very important part in people’s behaviours. by soontobe60

My response to her was
No they don’t play an important part at all in our behaviours.

Please tell me which statement you agree with, or whether you have a different third opinion. By the way “influence” implies that hormones have an unimportant part to play in affecting behaviour.

A couple of years out of date now but gives an idea. Those who claim to be TW are far more likely than other men to be sex offenders.

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/

Do 'transwomen' in prison in Canada automatically go to a women's prison?

That would be an obvious answer to their question of why so many 'transwomen' are sex offenders. They're not very bright if they can't figure that one out.

Lol in your dreams.

It’s maths.
The statistic is % of convicts.
If you have a demographic that isn’t murdering, then their % convicts for every other crime is going to be higher than the % for men because, unlike men, they have no or hardly any murderers.

That’s why it’s a poor statistic and is a departure from the usual measure of offending rates which are calculated as a % of whole population.

I agree with @Soontobe60.

And I was using 'influence' to mean that the affect on behaviour is significant. So I disagree with you that it's unimportant.

No, this is basic maths. It’s a hypothetical example, but one that is probably true. How many transwomen have been convicted of murder?

Thank you for the clarification.

Again this is % of convicts. It’s a poor data point and further research needs to be done.

Because they don’t identify as transgender until they are caught and imprisoned.

I have no idea. Where are you getting your data from on this to do the basic maths?

I still have no idea what you're talking about. What does the '90% of the murderers' refer to? Where does this figure come from?

I'm trying to find the data on how many men who claim to be women are convicted murderers in Eng/Wales prisons and cannot find any information. GuanYinShanxi it would be really helpful if you could share this info.

There is a third potential factor in the high rates of TW imprisoned for sexual offences.

If someone commits a sex crime that doesn't result in murder, there is a witness (or witnesses) - the victim. If that victim gives a description, then a description of the offender as 'male, brown-haired, mid-height' would be next to useless, where as a description of 'man dressed as a woman, brown wig, mid height' would narrow down the search pool considerably.

So if 1% of men commit sex crimes, maybe 10% of those get caught, and if 1% of transwomen commit sex crimes, maybe 80% of them get caught. This wouldn't apply for crimes such as theft if there are no witnesses.

I have no idea if this is actually the case, I'm just musing.

Most of these males only seem to discover their inner womanliness after getting caught, @DuesToTheDirt, so that wouldn't really apply.

'Threat' exists on many levels, including the psychological and emotional level. Some people are more more prone react with physical violence to psychological or emotional threat. 'Threat' is perceived on many levels.

Likewise, women don't have to feel immediate physical threat to feel a degree of psychological/instinctive threat and discomfort with males in their spaces.

Worth remembering that the data set for trans /sex offenders is completely screwed because of all the useful idiots in the Home Office / MoJ mis sexing numerous male offenders as women.

You mean in the same way that " more research needs to be done" when it comes to males in women's sports?

Oh I know, I'm talking about the ones who are already dressed as women. There are plenty of those.