Mary Harrington - Why are so many transgender prisoners sex offenders?

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https://open.substack.com/pub/reactionaryfeminist/p/how-many-sex-offenders?r=clsg2&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Yep, every single point in there and very well made.

And not only are we not allowed to speak the blasphemous truths and pretend it isn't so, we're supposed to shut our eyes to the harms that inevitably result to women and girls. In case of upsetting those we're supposed to be pretending we don't see as or think of as men.

It's male supremacism. There's no getting away from this. It fundamentally sees a man - whatever he calls himself - as more important to enable than to care about women. It's not even just a plain lack of equality of care and perception given to women compared to that given to a man who steps into the sacred caste with a flick of linguistics. At this point, the political lobby doesn't just require that you don't see women as equals: you must perform spitting upon and deriding women to truly prove your righteousness in the Faith.

'Reframe your trauma'. 'Learn to cope'. 'Punch women who do not submit to you'.

I'm still baffled this is all actually happening. And we keep being told that 'most people (no evidence) are ok with this and think it's a good thing'.

Most people are FUBAR then.

Absolutely.

I can't get the meaning of this sentence:

"Meanwhile, fewer than 150 women in total are in prison in Britain for sex offences, despite representing half the overall population."

despite [what?] representing half the overall population [of what?]

Self identifying as a woman allows the male prisoners to get preferential treatment.

A few years ago a large number of prisoners began identifying as Muslim to get better food.

The overall population of women in the UK. It just means women are very unlikely to be sex offenders per head of population.

Identifying as women just to get preferential treatment doesn't explain why so many are sex offenders. Is there a similar number of sex offenders in those prisoners changing religion to get better food,?

Doh! Of course. Luckily I'm not doing anything requiring an intellect today.

When you bring this up to the indoctrinated, they say it's because many tw turn to prostitution. Ask why female prostitutes aren't sex offenders, and they say it's because of discrimination. This is when you point out how many tw also face charges of solicitation without being charged with sex offenses, and sometimes you can hear the cogs start moving.

Sex offenders are more likely to face violence and abuse from other prisoners than the general prison population - I can can see the appeal of trying to opt of of a male prison if you a sex offender. But as we are repeatedly told no one would claim to be T if they aren't this can't be the case.

Mary addresses this very question about whether they are in prison for prostitution.

“MoJ data suggests not. Of the 97 trans prisoners in UK jails in 2022, 44 were jailed for rape and a further 14 for sexual offences related to children. Not exactly the multiply-oppressed street martyrs”

The link between paraphiliac / perverted (for want of a better word) fetishes and becoming an MtF trans is pretty clear imho. You look at a lot of these MtFs and their journey to 'coming out as trans' and there are so many red flags in common - porn addiction, especially trans and sissification porn (the latter is especially insidious), misogyny, a deeply sexist idea of what women are or should be (see andrea long chu), often also they are self-excluded from society due to mental illness or lack of education / employment. Many of them also previously identified as incels.

A significant proportion of serial killers are KNOWN to have cross dressed as a way of getting off on their sexualised misogyny - Peter Sutcliffe, Hadden Clark, Paul Denyer, Douglas 'Donna' Perry, BTK, Jerry Brudos, 'Beate' Schmidt, Ed Gein, Reginal Arthurell. This is not an exhaustive list by any means.

Then we get men like Barbie Kardashian.

A form of misogynistic violence fetish, is how I would describe it.

And yet we're not allowed to research it!

The prefential treatment includes the opportunity to move to a female prison, which obviously for a sex offender is quite appealing.

From what I've read sex offenders are the lowest of the low in prison. So if IDing as a woman keeps them just a tiny bit safer I can see why they might give it a try. We've already seen some sex offenders receive suspended sentences rather than custodial ones once they ID as women so this tactic obviously works in some instances.

Worth remembering that the organisations demanding that society ignore this evidence are currently all over our schools and the NHS demanding that men claiming to be women must be allowed into changing rooms, showers, hospital wards and anywhere where women and girls who are vulnerable can be found.

I think it’s pretty well established in numerous U.K., US anc Swedish studies that females socialised from birth to be placid and nonviolent (be kind) and then transition as FtM will retain the female pattern of criminality. And that males socialised from birth to be aggressive and violent (toxic masculinity) and then transition as MtF will retain the male pattern of criminality.

Criminality isn’t biologically inherent although this Victorian belief is tenaciously holding on amongst many who believe in all seriousness that a penis makes you violent. Criminality patterns and rates of offending by different demographics are the product of socialisation, inequality, poverty and other factors caused by the forgoing like mental illness.

I do think a few paedophiles are abusing the system and self identifying as MtF when they are not actually transgender at all specifically in a bid to be in safer custody. Child rapists don’t thrive in a male prison. I think anyone who post arrest ‘comes out’ as a transwoman should have to undergo psychological assessment to gauge the veracity of their claims just like anyone after arrest who claims diminished responsibility due to mental illness has to undergo court appointed psychological assessment for the same reason. When it comes to anything of or internal to the mind, and that includes identity, we cannot simply take a suspects bare faced claims at face value.

@GuanYinShanxi whats the purpose of the assessment? To see if they should be moved to a women’s prison?

have a trans wing of the men’s estate - there’s enough of them. No assessment needed, if you say you feel trans off you go. I’ll bet it’s less popular

Wasn't there a recent statistic in Scotland that the vast majority of trans prisoners no longer identify as trans after release?

I do think a few paedophiles are abusing the system and self identifying as MtF

This is likely true. But also I think the comorbidity of paraphilias is also a factor.

Sometimes more than one thing is happening at the same time.

Yes, whether someone has identified as trans for decades or only discover their inner woman after they are charged with a crime they should be in the estate for their sex. I was going to write natal sex but there is no other type of sex as it can't be changed.

”I think it’s pretty well established in numerous U.K., US anc Swedish studies that females socialised from birth to be placid and nonviolent (be kind) and then transition as FtM will retain the female pattern of criminality.”

This point is incorrect. In the Swedish study that examined this, FtM people undergoing medical transition were found to have increased rates of criminal offending compared with other women.

Male offending rates (including violent offending) did not decrease with medical transition.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

I don't think anyone seriously believes that having a penis makes you violent. However it is extremely well established across the evolutionary-biology community that testosterone is causally linked with higher patterns of confidence, competitiveness, sexual appetite, promiscuity, aggression and risk taking.

When this is coupled with men's significantly greater muscle mass (40% more than women in the upper body alone), which also lends greater confidence and willingness to get into confrontation, plus men's greater susceptibility to fetishistic and paraphiliac sexualities, coupled with the patriarchal society that exists in many parts of the world, it's not surprising that male violence, towards other men and to women, is far greater than the female tendency to violence.

Women being half the general population.

The purpose of the assessment is to determine if they are transgender or lying about being transgender.

I agree in separate transgender blocks or wings of prisons, but that is another matter.

I really don’t agree with self-ID and in a way as we are tracking # transgender offenders by crime, shouldn’t we at least try and ensure that someone who is logged as transgender is actually transgender?

It similar to the concern that crimes by female women should only be counted as such if the offender was actually a female woman?

If accuracy is right for us, it’s right for transgender women too- for all people for that matter.

I don’t think it’s wise for all of society to just not care about paedophiles faking their way into a trans block/wing to avoid most (and probably the worst) of their punishment. Where is the deterrent to not reoffend?

Are you saying that males are more likely to be violent purely down to socialisation? That biology plays no part?