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canyoufeelthesunshine · 30/09/2025 09:35

GuanYinShanxi · 15/09/2023 09:19

I think it’s pretty well established in numerous U.K., US anc Swedish studies that females socialised from birth to be placid and nonviolent (be kind) and then transition as FtM will retain the female pattern of criminality. And that males socialised from birth to be aggressive and violent (toxic masculinity) and then transition as MtF will retain the male pattern of criminality.

Criminality isn’t biologically inherent although this Victorian belief is tenaciously holding on amongst many who believe in all seriousness that a penis makes you violent. Criminality patterns and rates of offending by different demographics are the product of socialisation, inequality, poverty and other factors caused by the forgoing like mental illness.

Of course it’s biology. The socialisation argument doesn’t explain the huge disparities between the sexes. I’d say your biology influences most things in life down to what job you get (assuming you are free to choose)

Feminists have been pushing the socialisation argument because they don’t want to be constrained to some jobs by their biology. Fact is women’s biology is capable of a huge range of jobs - being evolved to be expert child carers and managers is no simple task, in many ways more complex than if you evolved to merely hunt.

FortheloveofPetethePlumber · 30/09/2025 09:40

Two year old zombie walking.

ScrollingLeaves · 30/09/2025 09:45

PriOn1 · 15/09/2023 09:30

”I think it’s pretty well established in numerous U.K., US anc Swedish studies that females socialised from birth to be placid and nonviolent (be kind) and then transition as FtM will retain the female pattern of criminality.”

This point is incorrect. In the Swedish study that examined this, FtM people undergoing medical transition were found to have increased rates of criminal offending compared with other women.

Male offending rates (including violent offending) did not decrease with medical transition.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

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I agree, and read this in a Swedish study.

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RebelliousCow · 30/09/2025 09:49

Or rather: why are so many sex offenders amenable to adopting a trans identity?

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Rudderneck · 30/09/2025 15:07

I mean, a simple argument could be they are particularly targeted and isolated in male prison so they are more motivated to find a way out.

But tbh I think the main reason is as said above, those paraphilic clusters - those are a real thing with some offenders.

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RebelliousCow · 30/09/2025 15:20

Rudderneck · 30/09/2025 15:07

I mean, a simple argument could be they are particularly targeted and isolated in male prison so they are more motivated to find a way out.

But tbh I think the main reason is as said above, those paraphilic clusters - those are a real thing with some offenders.

I agree! Sex offenders tend to have no regard for boundaries...when it comes to satisfying their distorted sexual drives/paraphilias.

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LeftieRightsHoarder · 30/09/2025 15:34

The answer to OP’s question is very simple when you think about it.

Trans-identifying men are living out their sex fantasy, or paraphilia. Paraphilias tend to occur in clusters, and men who get a thrill out of breaking taboos need to keep escalating as the thrill at each level wears off.

So if a man can get away with parading one paraphilia in public, why wouldn’t he try the others? There’s no longer any penalty for breaking boundaries of women’s rights or common decency. So there’s very little to stop men sliding from what’s legal to what’s illegal.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 30/09/2025 16:56

FortheloveofPetethePlumber · 30/09/2025 09:40

Two year old zombie walking.

True that this thread started in 2023, but I wouldn’t dismiss it as a zombie because it’s still a very relevant live issue.

I see zombies as those where a woman asked for help with a problem she was struggling with or a threat that was imminent years ago. We can’t help her by answering now!

But even then, when it’s a problem others are likely to encounter, I think it’s useful if you can add to, or update, the information PP have posted. Because people often look up existing threads on a topic before taking the step of posting their own.

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