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Datun · 14/09/2023 00:11

Sorry, that was mean to quote IcakethereforeIams post at 15.59.

FarEast · 14/09/2023 07:59

EasternStandard · 13/09/2023 08:27

Watch out for any laws criminalising misgendering within remit of hate speech

We’re all up for it on here if so

We won’t get to post as we do

@EasternStandard thus is one of the biggest pitfalls in including the protected characteristic of sex in the Hate Crimes Act.

That it will be used by men against women.

EasternStandard · 14/09/2023 08:29

FarEast · 14/09/2023 07:59

@EasternStandard thus is one of the biggest pitfalls in including the protected characteristic of sex in the Hate Crimes Act.

That it will be used by men against women.

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Can you imagine if we were criminalised for saying Isla Bryson was male for example

Or anyone that actually is male

We’d be fully in Orwell territory

I think Labour are planning to do it?

Farmageddon · 14/09/2023 08:55

EasternStandard · 14/09/2023 08:29

Can you imagine if we were criminalised for saying Isla Bryson was male for example

Or anyone that actually is male

We’d be fully in Orwell territory

I think Labour are planning to do it?

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In Ireland they are trying to push through legislation that would make misgendering a hate crime.

EasternStandard · 14/09/2023 09:37

Farmageddon · 14/09/2023 08:55

In Ireland they are trying to push through legislation that would make misgendering a hate crime.

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Labour will be including gender in hate crime for the first time

Can’t see whether it includes misgendering

EasternStandard · 14/09/2023 09:40

…because they haven’t said as per usual

Those voting will know after they’ve voted. If it’s criminalising women for saying he for a male who cares really

WarriorN · 14/09/2023 10:09

Clymene · 14/09/2023 05:40

Unfortunately paywalled but come on, she's a totally unique fashion icon! Artist in her own right there. I know she cites Grace Jones as an inspiration but she deserves her own retrospective at the V and A.

I'm struggling to think of another current musician who is as interesting visually as she is, other than Grace.

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WarriorN · 14/09/2023 10:13

Grimes, Doja cat and maybe lady gaga but I still feel they're more on the conventional side.

RealityFan · 14/09/2023 10:16

Igneococcus · 14/09/2023 08:24

Excellent piece, right on the money.

WarriorN · 14/09/2023 10:16

Watch the embedded film in this...

www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/45474/1/roisin-murphy-gendermess-yeti-drag-costume-moloko-20th-anniversary-musician

Gives no fucks about hair and makeup

WhereAreWeNow · 15/09/2023 09:11

Does anyone know which show/presenter played that "kick a TERF" song? I'm guessing it wasn't one of the big names like Lauren Laverne.

Biffology · 15/09/2023 09:15

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WarriorN · 15/09/2023 10:11

Well she's announced a load of extra gigs just now so they're not cancelling her!

TragicMuse · 15/09/2023 12:58

WhereAreWeNow · 15/09/2023 09:11

Does anyone know which show/presenter played that "kick a TERF" song? I'm guessing it wasn't one of the big names like Lauren Laverne.

I gather it was Lamacq

WarriorN · 15/09/2023 12:59

For one of their other songs, 100% profits go to mermaids.

I've included the charity that the song played goes to.

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WhereAreWeNow · 15/09/2023 13:46

TragicMuse · 15/09/2023 12:58

I gather it was Lamacq

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Do you think he knew what he was doing? Is it possible he didn't really listen to the lyrics properly?

Biffology · 15/09/2023 14:38

Someone looking to police those needs to be apprehended by the actual police..

AlisonDonut · 15/09/2023 15:14

WhereAreWeNow · 15/09/2023 13:46

Do you think he knew what he was doing? Is it possible he didn't really listen to the lyrics properly?

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They have to play a certain amount of 'playlist' songs that are out of their control so I'm guessing it may have appeared on a C playlist for a week or so?

I cannot see Lamacq playing this drivel, I would have put money on it being Mary Anne Hobbes.

Gender. It bloody destroys everything good.

RealityFan · 15/09/2023 22:02

Biffology · 15/09/2023 18:34

My God, they really can't leave it alone, can they?

All that was needed was the extra sentence "And Róisín's transphobic comments so triggered 6 Music staff that her whole day was justifiably cancelled".

Clymene · 15/09/2023 22:11

Biffology · 15/09/2023 18:34

Public purposes of the BBC:

(1) To provide impartial news and information to help people understand and engage with the world around them:
(2) To support learning for people of all ages:
(3) To show the most creative, highest quality and distinctive output and services:
(4) To reflect, represent and serve the diverse communities of all of the United Kingdom’s nations and regions and, in doing so, support the creative economy across the United Kingdom:
(5) To reflect the United Kingdom, its culture and values to the world:

They ceased any pretence of impartiality in this debate several years ago. I don't know if Hannah Barnes' departure was push or not but I cannot imagine how difficult it will have been for her to work in this toxic environment founded on lies.

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