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So the ‘formal re-education’ begins

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RudsyFarmer · 03/09/2023 15:20

I don’t know if anyone has been following this with Jordan Peterson but he has been ordered to undergo a self funded Re-education program in Canada, having lost a recent court case.

I have a feeling he isn’t well liked on here but I actually really like him. I’ve listened to many hours of his lectures and I don’t believe he is a misogynist - I think that’s the accusation that makes him a MN hate figure.

Anyhow I thought I’d include a link to the story if anyone is interested

https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/canadian-court-orders-jordan-peterson-to-take-re-education-program/

Canadian Court Orders Jordan Peterson to Take Re-education Program

In January of this year, best-selling author Jordan Peterson was told by Canada’s College of Psychologists of Ontario to undergo re-education therapy for his very public statements, not on professional psychology and science, but politics and culture.

https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/canadian-court-orders-jordan-peterson-to-take-re-education-program/

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RealityFan · 03/09/2023 15:24

They picked on the wrong fucking guy.
The receipts on this madness are stacking up.

WallaceinAnderland · 03/09/2023 15:26

I thought they were against conversion therapy.

RealityFan · 03/09/2023 15:28

WallaceinAnderland · 03/09/2023 15:26

I thought they were against conversion therapy.

Great point.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/09/2023 15:29

He's got plans to re register elsewhere if they try to cancel his professional registration.

heldinadream · 03/09/2023 15:32

WallaceinAnderland · 03/09/2023 15:26

I thought they were against conversion therapy.

You genius you. Conversion therapy = re-education = diversity training.

BethDuttonsTwin · 03/09/2023 15:37

I like him too OP. I think he’s been treated horribly. One of the first high profile pundits that I can recall having to endure the “cancellation” process. Was surprising and new at the time so I accepted that he must be a real AH and to my shame didn’t look into why he was being dragged so hard. Canada is a lost country though, absolutely crazy what’s happening there and I am baffled by Canadians response to it. My Canadian friends are very quiet and refrain from pushing anything that could be perceived as critical on SM. Makes me wonder if they’re frightened?

Winnading · 03/09/2023 15:39

I have been following it, he is so very very angry.
As he pointed out just a few days ago, he is probably the best person in Canada who could deal with this. He has some means, he has a bulldog attitude and he has a presence like not many other people do (in Canada and across the world)

It's like parody, what his university is doing to him.
I cant wait to see his re-education. He had promised to film it all.
I bet the university goes to court to prevent any filming.

DarkDayforMN · 03/09/2023 15:41

Jordan Peterson waving his receipts: Big mistake. Big. Huge!

I think this might be a very good thing. Jordan Peterson exposing the content of the court ordered “re-education program” to all his followers might help some ordinary Canadians finally wake the fuck up. Fingers crossed for powerful sunlight.🤞

Onegreenbean · 03/09/2023 15:44

I'm a big fan too OP. He's a very interesting and intelligent man and well worth a listen.

Baldieheid · 03/09/2023 16:14

Interesting.

So he has to parrot certain magic words in order to remain a practicing professional?

If he doesn't parrot the magic words, his career is effectively destroyed?

Remind me - the people enforcing this somehow think they're the good guys, don't they?

RudsyFarmer · 03/09/2023 16:15

He talked about watching the collapse of the first democratic country in the interview I watched. Man it’s so depressing.

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AlisonDonut · 03/09/2023 16:21

I think less of him as being in Pretty Woman and more about him being Obi Wan Kenobi. By striking him down he will only get more powerful.

I mean so far, he is one of the most famous Canadians on the planet.

I cannot wait for him to ask what it is about the person sent to re-educate him, that makes them a 'social media expert' when that is not a regulated profession. Be afraid, he will rip you to shreds buddy.

Eegads I will be listening to every bloody word of his reeducation training.

Incidentally, all this is going on in the town of my birth. And I still have siblings there. So I have skin in the game. Bring it on.

GrandmaMazur · 03/09/2023 16:29

I’m a fan too - I really enjoy his interviews and they often make me think about things in a totally different way. I listened to him talking to Douglas Murray recently and I found it so entertaining

BridasShieldWall · 03/09/2023 16:29

This is going to be more entertaining than watching a Ben Cooper cross examination - which is a high bar.

seriously though- it’s frightening the lengths to which some organisations go to stamp out any dissent. Unfortunately they are going to off worse - bring it on.

Floisme · 03/09/2023 16:40

I don't have to like him to find this disturbing.

off · 03/09/2023 16:46

I'm really usually not one for making this sort of post, as I realise how limited and often slightly distasteful the media outlets which are willing to publish this kind of thing can sometimes be.

But Focus on the Family are a viciously homophobic, transphobic, anti-abortion, anti-science, anti-evolution, misogynistic, fundamentalist evangelical church, whose malign influence has been actively making the world a sadder, nastier place for decades.

RudsyFarmer · 03/09/2023 16:48

I literally just googled for an article. I’m happy for you to replace it with another 👍

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RudsyFarmer · 03/09/2023 16:53

https://nypost.com/2023/01/05/jordan-peterson-could-lose-psychologist-license-if-he-refuses-social-media-re-education/amp/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11598889/amp/Jordan-Peterson-claims-forced-education-criticizing-Justin-Trudeau.html

https://www.nysun.com/article/canadas-jordan-peterson-is-ordered-to-undergo-reeducation-in-a-wake-up-call-for-friends-of-freedom

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/in-defence-of-jordan-peterson/

Psychologist Jordan Peterson could lose license if he refuses social media ‘re-education’

Controversial Canadian psychologist Jordan Peterson has launched a legal challenge to the College of Psychologists of Ontario’s requirement that he complete social media re-education for comments h…

https://nypost.com/2023/01/05/jordan-peterson-could-lose-psychologist-license-if-he-refuses-social-media-re-education/amp/

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RudsyFarmer · 03/09/2023 16:54

I have a feeling the left wing press won’t be covering it. I only know The Guardian in this country and nothing came up. Not sure what the left wing papers are on the other side of the water.

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AlisonDonut · 03/09/2023 16:54

off · 03/09/2023 16:46

I'm really usually not one for making this sort of post, as I realise how limited and often slightly distasteful the media outlets which are willing to publish this kind of thing can sometimes be.

But Focus on the Family are a viciously homophobic, transphobic, anti-abortion, anti-science, anti-evolution, misogynistic, fundamentalist evangelical church, whose malign influence has been actively making the world a sadder, nastier place for decades.

See this is the problem right here.

This scolding for using the wrong news reporting to highlight a story, when 'approved' sources won't touch them, in case they get sent to reeducation camps for wrong think is the whole fucking crux of the issue.

Of course someone will woke scold anyone posting any links to the story. They will all be wrong thinkers in some way or other.

off · 03/09/2023 16:56

It was a heads-up, not an accusation. They're not well-known in the UK, and even though I know the name, I didn't notice it in the URL and clicked through to the site, which also doesn't exactly shout about who's behind it. Sneaky fuckers.

Thanks for the additional links.

JoodyBlue · 03/09/2023 16:57

Interesting to read that about Focus on The Family and fair enough. But my own opinion of JP has come from listening to what he says usually on Spotify podcasts. He is an exceptional speaker, listener, and an interesting psychological explorer. He draws stuff back to scripture because that's his bag, but he is willing to disucss properly with those who hold an opposing view. He is an important voice at the moment. I would recommend people listen to him first hand rather than via a media outlet, that will inevitably attract criticism. The fact that he is forced to lose his license or be re-educated is chilling.

RudsyFarmer · 03/09/2023 17:02

I like the idea of a Woke Scold’s Bridle festooned with rainbow flags.

On that subject did anyone see the article yesterday about Yorkshire police trying to re-educate a retired 70+ Social Worker after she took a photo of a sticker highlighting the need for single sex spaces that had been placed on a poster promoting transpride?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12473521/amp/Retired-social-worker-quizzed-hate-crime-police-sticker-Stand-Trans-poster.html

Could be available in The Guardian too. I’ll go check.

Pensioner quizzed over 'Stand By Your Trans' poster 'hate crime'

The incident happened in Hebden Bridge in West Yorkshire. Officers told the pensioner that she had been identified from CCTV footage.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12473521/amp/Retired-social-worker-quizzed-hate-crime-police-sticker-Stand-Trans-poster.html

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off · 03/09/2023 17:06

FotF isn't any kind of news reporting organisation tho Alison, left, right, or upside-bloody-down. They're an obscenely powerful and influential American fundamentalist Protestant church which campaigns against abortion rights, funds "crisis pregnancy centres", lobbies politicians at the highest levels, and preaches that being gay is due to satanic influence, pretending to be a news site. It's not a right-wing news site, or a Christian news site, or any other kind of news site from a different perspective, which I have every confidence in all MNers being capable of reading and critically appraising in that context. It's a church. But I suspected that most people wouldn't be familiar with the fact that they're actually a church, and a particularly nasty and powerful one, because that's not clear on their site.

littleripper · 03/09/2023 17:08

RudsyFarmer · 03/09/2023 17:02

I like the idea of a Woke Scold’s Bridle festooned with rainbow flags.

On that subject did anyone see the article yesterday about Yorkshire police trying to re-educate a retired 70+ Social Worker after she took a photo of a sticker highlighting the need for single sex spaces that had been placed on a poster promoting transpride?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12473521/amp/Retired-social-worker-quizzed-hate-crime-police-sticker-Stand-Trans-poster.html

Could be available in The Guardian too. I’ll go check.

It's all over the local website, huge amount of anger:

Hebden Bridge Web: Discussion Forum

Hebden Bridge Discussion Forum on the Hebden Bridge Web. Issues of importance to the community of Hebden Bridge.

https://www.hebdenbridge.co.uk/forum/index.html

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