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So the ‘formal re-education’ begins

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RudsyFarmer · 03/09/2023 15:20

I don’t know if anyone has been following this with Jordan Peterson but he has been ordered to undergo a self funded Re-education program in Canada, having lost a recent court case.

I have a feeling he isn’t well liked on here but I actually really like him. I’ve listened to many hours of his lectures and I don’t believe he is a misogynist - I think that’s the accusation that makes him a MN hate figure.

Anyhow I thought I’d include a link to the story if anyone is interested

https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/canadian-court-orders-jordan-peterson-to-take-re-education-program/

Canadian Court Orders Jordan Peterson to Take Re-education Program

In January of this year, best-selling author Jordan Peterson was told by Canada’s College of Psychologists of Ontario to undergo re-education therapy for his very public statements, not on professional psychology and science, but politics and culture.

https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/canadian-court-orders-jordan-peterson-to-take-re-education-program/

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Baldieheid · 04/09/2023 08:55

He's not going to make it easy for them, is he?

I'll actually really appreciate watching the process, I've no experience of HR or diversity people interfering in my head, no training, no rules beyond my own rules - it's my company, I can do what I damn well like within the law. The only place my words are censored is here on mumsnet.

StaunchMomma · 04/09/2023 09:09

AnSolas · 04/09/2023 01:35

Can you please supply a link from a respectable left wing reporter

Thanks 👍

That wasn't my point, and you know it.

This is literally like moaning it's not in the Guardian then posting an article from a Tommy Robinson-esque propaganda leaflet.. These are dangerous, awful people!

THAT is my point.

turbonerd · 04/09/2023 09:22

Within the church-article is this link to The Financial Post. It is clickable, and a very good segment from a solicitor Expert appears. Recommended reading.

The Financial Post lamented, “The impact of this decision is to empower woke bodies everywhere to discipline members who express unpopular opinions that cause someone ‘offence.’”
They continue,
This decision will inevitably motivate political enemies of any member of a regulatory body — whether it be one of lawyers, osteopaths, engineers or, well, psychologists — who have no legal basis for any claim otherwise, to harass that person by filing complaints about their expressed opinions or writings.

Lamented is the clickable Word, possibly not in my C/p

Jordan Peterson ruling empowers woke bodies everywhere to discipline members who express unpopular opinions

Howard Levitt: Question in the Jordan Peterson case should have been whether the college's code of ethics itself overreached. Read more

https://financialpost.com/fp-work/jordan-peterson-ruling-empowers-woke-bodies-to-discipline-members

Pixiedust1234 · 04/09/2023 09:22

That wasn't my point, and you know it.
Oh dear, another person who can read minds and knows what others are thinking... perhaps @AnSolas can go on the same social media re education programme and learn to do better.

turbonerd · 04/09/2023 09:22

Ooh. Look, there it is!

AnSolas · 04/09/2023 10:40

StaunchMomma · 04/09/2023 09:09

That wasn't my point, and you know it.

This is literally like moaning it's not in the Guardian then posting an article from a Tommy Robinson-esque propaganda leaflet.. These are dangerous, awful people!

THAT is my point.

Then post up a better link

Or better still post up the sections of the article which contains the propaganda and explain how the section/ article is being used to push their agenda.

TRA are all about twisting the meanings of words and ideas. If you beleive that the people objecting to their aims are doing the same to achive a different outcome explain and educate the reader. Teach them to think about what they read and to not accept it or any article as gospel.

IcakethereforeIam · 04/09/2023 10:45

I've been up since before dawn, no bugger showed up! I'm going back to bed!

Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 10:57

IcakethereforeIam · 04/09/2023 10:45

I've been up since before dawn, no bugger showed up! I'm going back to bed!

I was there hiding in the bushes

oldwhyno · 04/09/2023 11:02

He will love Big Brother

IcakethereforeIam · 04/09/2023 11:03

Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 10:57

I was there hiding in the bushes

😲 I wee'd in those bushes ConfusedBlush

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 04/09/2023 11:11

He will love Big Brother

For a moment there I thought you were proposing a subsequent TV career Grin

AlisonDonut · 04/09/2023 11:19

StaunchMomma · 04/09/2023 09:09

That wasn't my point, and you know it.

This is literally like moaning it's not in the Guardian then posting an article from a Tommy Robinson-esque propaganda leaflet.. These are dangerous, awful people!

THAT is my point.

And those bad people are still allowed opinions. And to publish them.

THAT is the point of free speech. It can't just be for your approved publications.

Baldieheid · 04/09/2023 11:26

Free speech is free speech. You have to allow people whose views distress and repulse you to speak too, not just those in your comfortable bubble.

Challenge their views. Argue. Discuss. Ignore. Mute. Block.

All viable options for the individual.

AnSolas · 04/09/2023 11:33

IcakethereforeIam · 04/09/2023 11:03

😲 I wee'd in those bushes ConfusedBlush

did you spot that patch of poison ivy....

IcakethereforeIam · 04/09/2023 11:35

Fortunately, we don't have that here. I did spot the nettles, most of them 😳

Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 11:37

IcakethereforeIam · 04/09/2023 11:35

Fortunately, we don't have that here. I did spot the nettles, most of them 😳

hands Cake some Dock leaves

(nearly handed you dick leaves! autocorrect has a one track mind)

AnSolas · 04/09/2023 11:38

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 04/09/2023 11:11

He will love Big Brother

For a moment there I thought you were proposing a subsequent TV career Grin

Ditto.

Can you imagine going into work and being told he was your next "project".

No "normal" person is going to want that job because you would know that it is going to become front and center in the whole debate and no matter what you do it will be wrong. And then you get a complaint and you get sent for re-education.

IcakethereforeIam · 04/09/2023 11:44

I think he'd likely re-educate his re-educator.

Womanofcustard · 04/09/2023 11:55

I already feel sorry for the person chosen to re-educate JP.
Please let it all be filmed or audio recorded.

AnSolas · 04/09/2023 13:05

Boiledbeetle · 04/09/2023 11:37

hands Cake some Dock leaves

(nearly handed you dick leaves! autocorrect has a one track mind)

Snigger/snicker

AnSolas · 04/09/2023 13:19

Womanofcustard · 04/09/2023 11:55

I already feel sorry for the person chosen to re-educate JP.
Please let it all be filmed or audio recorded.

Thats prime time tv, Pay-per-view stuff.

Working title:
NO DEBATE
Subtitle
The JP will be Educated Show
Summary
JP begins a word by word examination of each line paragraph presented.
The host yells no debate

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 04/09/2023 13:25

This is literally like moaning it's not in the Guardian then posting an article from a Tommy Robinson-esque propaganda leaflet.. These are dangerous, awful people!

Well, if the Guardian doesn't post it and the propaganda leaflet does then guess which one's going to get read? perhaps the question should be why isn't the Guardian saying anything?

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 04/09/2023 13:38

I already feel sorry for the person chosen to re-educate JP.

I would love to volunteer Michelle Forcier (aka Blue Haired Chicken Lady) for the job though sadly she's American not Canadian.

For anyone who missed her making an utter fool of herself in an interview with Matt Walsh:

Please let it all be filmed or audio recorded.

I'm sure JP feels the same way.

MalagaNights · 04/09/2023 14:47

The irony of people complaining about linking to a publication, because they hold different, but legal and common views, which differ from your own, on athread about a man being persecuted for his free speech.

You do know many people view your views in the same way you view Focus on the Family: bigot, prejuduced,harmful, soemthing ist or phobic, dangerous, shouldn't be shared.

And why do you assume everyone on the thread would agree they are views we all think are dangerous/unacceptable/something ist or phobic?

Who are you to censor what we read or link to because you don't agree with it?

AlisonDonut · 04/09/2023 14:54

I'd like to offer my session plan for JP's reeducation.

Aims: To reeducate JP.

Activites.
Get JP to switch off his mic/audio/video equipment.
Tell him this is all a load of hogwash and can we discuss off record at a later dates how to get this hogwash out.
Get him to sign a form to say he had his re-education to end this nonsense.

Session ends. Duration: 5 minutes.