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evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:17

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:16

OMFG SHUTUP I have never met a bunch of girls who are so obsessed with fucking semantics. You're more woke than the people who use neo pronouns

Well there we go you broke me. Well done now please for the love of god evict me this place is a shithole

Froodwithatowel · 05/07/2023 23:17

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:16

OMFG SHUTUP I have never met a bunch of girls who are so obsessed with fucking semantics. You're more woke than the people who use neo pronouns

This would be because words have meaning and when meaning changes it massively impacts on other people.

And everyone matters, not just trans people.

PatatiPatatras · 05/07/2023 23:18

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:16

OMFG SHUTUP I have never met a bunch of girls who are so obsessed with fucking semantics. You're more woke than the people who use neo pronouns

Oh he's caking us girls 😂

I didn't miss popcorn time! 🍿

NicCageisnotNickCave · 05/07/2023 23:18

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:14

Seriously where are you getting this information from lmao. -10 IQ points specifically, just the word "orgasm", fertility despite the fact that puberty blockers do not affect fertility. HRT does!

Then when people are denied puberty blockers more expensive operations to counteract the wrong puberty, more drugs pumped into there systems to counteract increased levels of testosterone or Estrogen. What you are saying makes no sense at all.

The only part of that with any shred of evidence is the effects long term on bone density and nobody actually knows the effects yet because there hasn't been enough time available to study them

You haven’t been paying attention to the science, huh?

if you block male natal puberty at tanner stage 2 and follow up with wrong sex hormones you end up with adult ‘transwomen’ who are incapable of orgasm.

This is not my assertion, it’s the opinion of Dr Marci Bowers (who is a transitioned male).

PatatiPatatras · 05/07/2023 23:18

Calling... I'll grab more popcorn. It has been a long day.

MavisMcMinty · 05/07/2023 23:20

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:16

OMFG SHUTUP I have never met a bunch of girls who are so obsessed with fucking semantics. You're more woke than the people who use neo pronouns

“Bunch of girls”? You’re trying too hard now. You overreached, you toppled.

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:20

Froodwithatowel · 05/07/2023 23:17

This would be because words have meaning and when meaning changes it massively impacts on other people.

And everyone matters, not just trans people.

I know everyone matters and I want to show sympathy I really do but it's so insufferable here. There is always a counter argument and you can never accept you are wrong. At least I can say when i've made a mistake or an error or I may have judged something wrong. Everyones mind here is like a block of concrete

Helleofabore · 05/07/2023 23:20

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 22:55

If you want a list of Cisgender female sexual assault offences you can have them to be honest i'm sick of trying to make any kind of sense.

- Georgia Bilham (Sexual Assault)

  • Rachel Geraghty (Sexual Assault, Paedophilia)
  • Sarah Bennett (50, Sexual Abuse)
  • Kirstyann Kavanagh (23, Sexual truth or dare, Children)
  • Sonia Chivers (29, Performing sex acts next to child and recording)
  • Irene Torrie (42, Groping & Exposure)
  • Beverley Dean (54, Indecent exposure)
  • Ellee Nicoll (26, Groomed child into sex acts)
  • Jodie Tucker (27, Molested in public)
  • Louise Smith (43, Sex acts, child)
  • Laura Stephenson (29, Sex with a schoolboy)
  • Carol White (40, Molested kids)
  • Rebecca Williams (22, Molested child)
  • Shanon Anderson (25, Grooming, child)
  • Hannah Harris (24, Sexual Activity child)
  • Carole Taylor (36, Grooming, child)
  • Vicki Bevan (38, Rape, Child)
  • Carly Dear (47, Sexual Abuse)
  • Serena Marie Emily Ransom (28, Sexual Abuse, Child)
  • Jaqueline Milne (34, Sex, Minor)

It's too much to check individually but this is just from looking today. I also counted other cases for Trans Women and men because i'm an idiot and clearly I should have spent today doing something better.

  • Lexi-Rose Crawford (24, Rape, Previous conviction as a man, changed gender in prison) - Bristol
  • Jane Beck (53, Sexual Assault, Previous assault as a man) - Glasgow
  • Sally Dixon (58, indecent assault and Indecency, Previous assault as a man) - Sussex
  • Britnee Aitken (48, Molested, Previous conviction as a man) - Manchester
  • Colin Norfolk (68, Indecent exposure) - Sheffield
  • Claire Goodier (61, Assault as a man, Crossdressing) - Cheshire
  • Andrew Miller (53, Previous assault as a man) - Melrose
  • Marcia Walker (45, Previous assault as a man) - Oxford
  • Karen White (56, Previous assault as a man) - Yorkshire

You are now telling a woman that your words are not fucking offensive because women sexually offend too?

And you call yourself a feminist?

Did you read the post you responded to? Or are you now on auto pilot?

Froodwithatowel · 05/07/2023 23:21

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:17

Well there we go you broke me. Well done now please for the love of god evict me this place is a shithole

Sigh.

Well if encountering other perspectives and experiences to your own displease you in this way then you probably do need to avoid places and people where you will encounter them. But it's going to get more difficult, I promise you, because these problems are not going away, they are getting worse, and the solution is going to have to be ways to meet all needs, not blind prioritisation of one group and one narrative. That's been the problem; it will not be the solution.

RealityFan · 05/07/2023 23:22

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:14

Seriously where are you getting this information from lmao. -10 IQ points specifically, just the word "orgasm", fertility despite the fact that puberty blockers do not affect fertility. HRT does!

Then when people are denied puberty blockers more expensive operations to counteract the wrong puberty, more drugs pumped into there systems to counteract increased levels of testosterone or Estrogen. What you are saying makes no sense at all.

The only part of that with any shred of evidence is the effects long term on bone density and nobody actually knows the effects yet because there hasn't been enough time available to study them

There is no such thing as wrong puberty, whatever you might say. Just like there is no wrong height, or looks, or eye colour, or dance skills (I lie about that one, lol), etc.

Not enough studies on osteoporosis? You want to read Eliza Mondegreen's report from EPATH, the trans propagandists par excellence, where even the most slavish advocates announced there were major dangers, but it was such a downer, they didn't want to discuss it further.
The nervous laughing around the attendees gave the game away.

Your disingenuousness does you no favours.

Hepwo · 05/07/2023 23:23

There we go again. Who gives a shit about the teenage boys right transitioning from MtF. I think hatred is the wrong word. Complete apathy for AMAB people in here and infantilizing of AFAB people as if they have no idea what they are doing

You are on a board with parents of children who absolutely do give a shit about their children caught up in a l trans obsession.

Their children talk as much nonsense as you do.

MavisMcMinty · 05/07/2023 23:23

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:16

OMFG SHUTUP I have never met a bunch of girls who are so obsessed with fucking semantics. You're more woke than the people who use neo pronouns

I’d never report your post, because as others have said, it’s best to leave this sort of thing up for all to see.

Froodwithatowel · 05/07/2023 23:23

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:20

I know everyone matters and I want to show sympathy I really do but it's so insufferable here. There is always a counter argument and you can never accept you are wrong. At least I can say when i've made a mistake or an error or I may have judged something wrong. Everyones mind here is like a block of concrete

So everyone should agree with you because you believe you're right?

I believe I'm right love, and it's based on evidence and a lot of time listening, reading, thinking and processing that evidence as it builds up. Other people have rights, choices, beliefs and freedoms too.

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:23

Froodwithatowel · 05/07/2023 23:21

Sigh.

Well if encountering other perspectives and experiences to your own displease you in this way then you probably do need to avoid places and people where you will encounter them. But it's going to get more difficult, I promise you, because these problems are not going away, they are getting worse, and the solution is going to have to be ways to meet all needs, not blind prioritisation of one group and one narrative. That's been the problem; it will not be the solution.

I don't mind talking about other perspectives but i'm running on autopilot. Trying to reply to a constant stream of comments is like trying to run on thin ice wearing high heels

Froodwithatowel · 05/07/2023 23:24

Then it's probably time to take a break. People are going to respond, it's a debate, they will make points. You don't have to read and respond unless you want to.

Hepwo · 05/07/2023 23:24

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:20

I know everyone matters and I want to show sympathy I really do but it's so insufferable here. There is always a counter argument and you can never accept you are wrong. At least I can say when i've made a mistake or an error or I may have judged something wrong. Everyones mind here is like a block of concrete

Hahaha.

Poor you.

I didn't see you admit the pornography mistake yet?

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:25

Ok. Everything aside, frustration, annoyance all of it in the bin for a moment.

because these problems are not going away, they are getting worse, and the solution is going to have to be ways to meet all needs, not blind prioritisation of one group and one narrative

What are the solutions. In-fact what is one solution. Not all of them just one. In actual detail instead of just a criticism of what I have to say

Oblahbla · 05/07/2023 23:25

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:20

I know everyone matters and I want to show sympathy I really do but it's so insufferable here. There is always a counter argument and you can never accept you are wrong. At least I can say when i've made a mistake or an error or I may have judged something wrong. Everyones mind here is like a block of concrete

Insufferable because people disagree with you? Insufferable because people have facts to counteract your claims?

You can say when you've made a mistake or an error or have judged someone wrong? Really?

Everyone's mind here is like concrete? Or perhaps many here know what they're talking about. The biologists, psychologists, doctors. And yes, the mothers.

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:25

Hepwo · 05/07/2023 23:24

Hahaha.

Poor you.

I didn't see you admit the pornography mistake yet?

You incorrectly assume i have the time to look back at it. I have no doubt i've said something stupid, you try replying to 15 people at once. It's impossible.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 05/07/2023 23:26

If you give a shot about boys who transition, @evieowlette, you should care that they will never experience orgasm.

https://twitter.com/womenreadwomen/status/1521692875242688512?s=46&t=ibVI24cP7Ts3w2nqa22VXg

I don’t believe in chemical castration for kids myself, but you do you, boo!

Horrible news story
Boiledbeetle · 05/07/2023 23:26

Hepwo · 05/07/2023 23:24

Hahaha.

Poor you.

I didn't see you admit the pornography mistake yet?

Funnily enough she seems not to have seen those posts calling her out on that

Oblahbla · 05/07/2023 23:27

'What are the solutions. In-fact what is one solution. Not all of them just one. In actual detail instead of just a criticism of what I have to say'.

Admitting that humans can't change sex would be a good start.

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:27

Oblahbla · 05/07/2023 23:25

Insufferable because people disagree with you? Insufferable because people have facts to counteract your claims?

You can say when you've made a mistake or an error or have judged someone wrong? Really?

Everyone's mind here is like concrete? Or perhaps many here know what they're talking about. The biologists, psychologists, doctors. And yes, the mothers.

Insufferable because you all seem to have the same general criticisms of anything I have to say. It's like talking in an echo chamber.

evieowlette · 05/07/2023 23:28

Oblahbla · 05/07/2023 23:27

'What are the solutions. In-fact what is one solution. Not all of them just one. In actual detail instead of just a criticism of what I have to say'.

Admitting that humans can't change sex would be a good start.

That's not a solution. You just stated a fact. Try again. What is a solution to a single "Problem" that exists right now that wont throw Trans Women under the bus. Actually you can throw them under the bus just explain one thing

Oblahbla · 05/07/2023 23:28

People are countering with facts. Many posters on this thread are countering your claims with actual facts. Have a wee think about that.

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