Horrible news story

[MumblesParty]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-66107716

And I can't help wondering if the "women" assailants are actually women.
Poor kid.

How about these:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-63785679.amp

https://news.sky.com/story/transgender-butcher-admits-abducting-and-sexually-abusing-schoolgirl-12883405

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/trans-woman-jailed-rape-serve-8429209

https://www.kxii.com/content/news/Transgender-woman-allegedly-sexually-assaults-teen-in-walmart-505820451.html

Just a very quick search.

But anyway, isn't it a bit transphobic to say they're not transwomen? I thought anyone who said they were a transwoman was a transwoman?

“gradually i've found it harder not to get frustrated at everyones lack of any critical thinking skills. It's embarrassing”

This is absolutely hilarious.

You came here with what seems to be the intention to educate people, spread swathes of misinformation based from fuck knows where and nothing to support it. You claim to be a feminist yet you are incredibly dismissive about Child sex abuse, incredibly so.

But this quote, this is an absolute fucking gem!

I still want to know if this poster keeps posting Kathleen Scott when they mean Kathleen Stock.

Where did I say you were ‘trans’?

And you are complaining about people’s critical thinking skills? You just keep giving the belly laughs by this point. Brilliant stuff.

😂😂

Nope the comments keep coming, great...

I actually knew David Orton. He used to go to Hinckley Academy when I was younger and he was honestly the most terrifying person I have ever met. Regardless of whether this person is Transgender or not he should be in prison regardless.

Andrew Miller committed a previous assault as a man before they transitioned, look it up.

Lexi-Rose Crawford Identified as a Trans Women after being released from prison.

Sean Ojeda is a person from the United States. I can't comment on this I don't even know how easy or not it is to declare you are Transgender in the states.

For those confused Hinckley Academy is now the Hinckley School.

Some posters simply have a Feminism: Chat vibe.

Anyway about reversible, the equivalent to Helen Webberley in my country got challenged when she said all procedures were safe and completely reversible. “Breasts don’t grow back, female voices are permanently lowered and hair loss/body hair growth is also permanent,” the interviewer said. And the mad woman argued back that silicone implants, speech therapy, hair plugs and lasering were the appropriate treatments in that case. That level of intellectual dishonesty in someone claiming to be a medical practitioner really floored me at the time.

Yep Dyslexia, Sorry.

Who didnt see this before?

I'm sorry but many of us were shouting it out loud, none of you wanted to listen. I cant count the amount of times we've been told to just be kind.

20 bloody years + we have tried and tried to get other women to see. It's only now its reached a critical mass that others see what we were trying to say.

Go look at the archives here on MN ( if there are posts from the 2000s) we were shouting into the void.

Ok go get mad at what is happening, good luck, I hope you have more success.
But dont think this is some new thing.
I've been very angry, now I'm more resigned. You can only keep that anger going so long in a void.

So you agree that being trans or giving genuine tw extra rights leads to violent men taking advantage to abuse women.
So you do agree then we should repeal the gra so this is no longer possible and ensure the ea is applied as written?
Because I don't get your point?
Puberty blockers cause permanent bone damage and so are terrible. I don't think there is doubt about how damaging they are. Some people think the benefit of maybe feeling better for a bit is more important than life long conditions like arthritis and becoming brittle boned before 50, it's clearly not but that's your argument .

No I think convicted sexual offenders should be monitored after they are released from jail on a close leash for the rest of there lives. Much closer than we do now. All of these offences you mentioned bar 1 who I know is an outlier because the guys an absolute sociopath where committed by men at the time and should be treated as such

@evieowlette can I ask you what you think being classed as a transwoman involves?

I think a person must know internally whether they are Trans or not. I don't think the right to self ID is safe but equally the current system to legally change your gender works even if it is difficult for Trans people.

What everyone here is talking about are "male predators".

And the teeth falling out and the jaw damage, and the pancreas disease, and ligament constant pain. There is a long list.

I have a friend who took the same drugs for another purpose, they are life shortening and limiting. This is going to be a scandal in about 20 years time, but we already had the information from
the other uses of the drugs.

It is horrendous!

What difference does it make if they commited additional crimes before they transitioned? They still committed sexual crimes as transwoman.

And regardless of whether they commited crimes as men or transwomen, do you not understand that you are advocating for the sharing of toilets, changing rooms, etc with anyone who says they are a transwoman and thus more likely to commit a sexual assault?

They are all male predators. Yea. And there are some male predators who were trans before they were caught. While they predated. We have a whole thread if you want to go through pages and pages of them.

But what stops these 'male predators' from going through the process to change their gender (in fact, a lot of them probably do!). Are you happy to share toilets with them?

The problem with your answer is that isn't how it is working. If you say you are a woman then you are a woman. There is no need to do anything, no need to name change, no need to change how you look, no need to apply for a gender marker. Yes those people are male predators but due to stonewall law those people are transwomen because they say they are. It is completely fucked up.

Also calling people who say they are transwomen male predators is transphobic so welcome to the club

I swear i've already mentioned i'm not Trans. Might as well talk to a wall at this point

Where in the world did that outburst come from? Was it because they were called “mate?” I can’t see anything else that might have provoked it. 🤨

Methinks the laydee doth protest too much.

I think you'll find that they all identified as women at the time of the crime:

Leicestershire Police - who said the 25-year-old identified as a woman at the time of the offences - were not able to give a current gender identity.

Andrew Miller, also known as Amy George, lured the young victim into his car in February while dressed as a woman.

But within weeks of being freed on licence in January 2019 and the start of her using feminine pronouns, the court heard she raped a vulnerable friend.

31-year-old Sean Ojeda, who is currently transitioning to a woman, was arrested last week for allegedly assaulting a teen inside a Walmart bathroom.

Particularly knowing that they are likely to have stronger grip strength than over 90% of adult females and punch power that probably doesn’t even compete with women. Considering. Males have higher bone density even with lowered testosterone and much greater reach .

How do you live as a woman? What are the characteristics?

A gender recognition certificate is £5 and 'live as a woman'for two years.
Or gender dysphoria.
What does it look like to live as a woman and how do you prove you did this?

https://www.gov.uk/apply-gender-recognition-certificate/who-can-apply

You can apply if you meet all of the following requirements:

• you’re aged 18 or over
• you’ve been diagnosed with gender dysphoria in the UK
• you’ve been living in your affirmed gender for at least 2 years
• you intend to live in this gender for the rest of your life

You can apply even if you have not had any gender affirming surgery or treatments, or you do not plan to have any.

Oh … do you think?

This poster is a gift that keeps on giving. Gem after gem considering that ‘absolute cesspit and no critical thinking’ jibe.

Considering how much fucking misinformation has been posted here today in such a short amount of time, it is rather incredible to have seen that jibe.

And as gets said a lot on here sweet innocent transwoman or male predator... We can't tell the difference so they all have to stay out of single sex spaces as they are all men.

We don't know which ones have special internal womanly feelings and which ones are trying to con us.