Video of Starbucks employee in UK branch, part 2

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Setting up the continuation thread.

First thread at https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4801699-video-of-starbucks-employee-in-uk-branch

Yes @SirSamVimesCityWatch he was doing two things there that don’t fit the tolerant image - attacking Vanessa in the moment - and women actually called Karen by perpetuating their ‘name as public shame tag’ not really something a tra would endorse??

Luna I mean

@SirSamVimesCityWatch - Luna clearly demonstrates they are an intolerant bigot. Preach one thing, do something completely different.

all the pronouns and “pat-on-the-back” labels in the world aren’t going to change the fact Lunas behaviour was misogynistic

Is Luna short for something? I've no sympathy for them, they decided to be aggressive for no reason, thinking that them would get away with it and be supported for they's bullying.

Them has had an unpleasant, for they, trip to reality.

@SinnerBoy I wonder what it could be short for 🤔

Excellent job on the pronouns btw!!! I don’t trust myself with the plural for 3rd person singular yet …..

If the UK had a justice system, then yes, it could compromise it.

However since we don't (and indeed never have had) that's alright then.

What we do have is a system that protects the status quo at any cost.

Justice for this incident would be amazing.

As far as we know Vanessa hasn’t even got her £10 refund from Starbucks yet

For the coffee, orange juice, and cake she paid for

Well, there has always been a lot of irony in the fact that the only forbidden identity is those of us who reject the label ‘cis’.

I'm not sure this recent article is any more intrusive to Luna than previous ones were for Vanessa.

Both sought out testimonies of people who knew them.

It's interesting imho that nobody was calling the earlier articles intrusive....

It‘s the inclusion of the child I objected to. Even pixelated.

Luna did vow after Brianna Ghey's death to be more 'out there' with the trans stuff, so Luna will probably be enjoying having been named by the DM. Such lovely publicity for The Cause.

@Rightsraptor Definitely out there now.

Although what an ironic path to fame. Luna literally inverts the original Karen meme to go viral.

We need a new meme now:

‘Karen doesn’t want to talk to The Manager’ ……

Manager tries to talk to Karen but Karen would rather carry on talking to ‘this lady’

Is Luna short for something?

Lunatic?

@StarbucksKaren I hadn't noticed the inversion. That's beautiful! And so ironic.

I'm imagining a Benny Hill-type chase of a customer running away from a pursuing manager, zigzagging all over the place.

Are you able to share the pattern for the cowl? Or alternatively tell us where we can get it?

😂

Leaving aside the total idiocy of 'without labels we wouldn't have an identity'

And yet are determined to appropriate the label "woman" and take females' identity from them.

@ifIwerenotanandroid yesss 😂😂😂

I love the image of zigzagging manager in hot pursuit

That article makes me feel really uneasy. It is very intrusive and suggestive. This dude is clearly not pleasant and deserves to lose job and whatever else comes through official channels but i am not sure this type of scrutiny is warranted. They could so easily end up being portrayed as the victim in this.

Ya just knew that the parents were going to be called Nigel and Fiona!
Ya just knew it! :-/
Perhaps Nigel and Fiona would like to explain, why they've done such a lousy job of parenting, bringing a kid up to think it's ok to behave like that?!

They could so easily end up being portrayed as the victim in this.

This is what concerns me.

The last thing we need is TRAs declaring Luna to be the victim of a media witch-hunt, so I don’t think the DM should have gone digging the dirt. Unwise especially when the police are investigating.

However, it’s interesting about the importance this individual has reportedly attached to labels. If you’re a non-conforming type of person, as many of us are, surely you laugh in the face of labels? You don’t want to be pigeonholed or put into a neat little box. I know I don’t, which is why the term cishet gives me a surge of rage, as I know that’s the label TRAs would bestow upon me. Really surprised that labels matter to this person. Sounds very conformist.

Needing others to reinforce your identity, isn't very wise really. What are you going to do when they refuse, or simply do it wrong? Shout and bawl at them, and then storm off in a big huff? What kind of a way is that to live your best life fgs

It would seem the child has been posted by Luna themselves though. It is all out there for the world to see.

If Luna is not the parent of this child, the parents allowed their child to have their photo taken and published by Luna on social media.