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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 19/05/2023 14:50

zibzibara · 19/05/2023 12:09

Male humanoid.

I guessed that "foid" would be the female equivalent. Google tells me that "foid" is used in a very dehumanising way by the manosphere. I think we should avoid using terms that are equivalent to "foid" as they could also be seen as dehumanising.

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BezMills · 19/05/2023 14:58

I read it as a jeu-de-mot on the known phenomenon called 'roid rage' short for 'steroid rage'. But basically Narcissistic Rage would cover it.

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 19/05/2023 15:36

Narcisstic rage is very accurate.

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 19/05/2023 15:42

Hi @Emotionalsupportviper

OT but thanks for your PM. For some reason I can't reply to it but glad my post made your day

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/05/2023 16:35

It was a joy @MrsDanversGlidesAgain .

In these troubled times I take my simple pleasures where I can find them.

😊

zibzibara · 19/05/2023 16:49

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 19/05/2023 14:50

I guessed that "foid" would be the female equivalent. Google tells me that "foid" is used in a very dehumanising way by the manosphere. I think we should avoid using terms that are equivalent to "foid" as they could also be seen as dehumanising.

You're right, I asked MNHQ to remove my comment.

DirtyDuchess · 19/05/2023 17:11

Why does a Transman only eat salad. Because he's a Herbefore.

Tricyrtis2022 · 19/05/2023 17:57

Get yer coat! 😅

DirtyDuchess · 19/05/2023 18:50

Have I pulled? 😂

nzborn · 19/05/2023 21:24

Yes

JanesLittleGirl · 19/05/2023 21:48

So to completely kill this side thread: Is the medical term for FtM "bottom surgery" a strapadichtomy?

DirtyDuchess · 19/05/2023 22:46

Lol

SinnerBoy · 20/05/2023 04:33

EmotionalSupportViper

Personally I'd both press criminal charges with the police and sue the *rse off him in civil court for assaulting me and damaging my property, but I appreciate that some people might just be sick of the whole carry on.

I'd definitely have the Police on someone, if they carried on like that with me. I suppose people expect the cops to arrive at everything nowadays, when in the past, they'd shrug things off with an FFS.

People still don't report everything. On another forum, there was a cycling zealot, who insisted that cyclists may always cycle on the pavement.

I commented that I'd seen a man and woman, cycling through a crowd and that they'd knocked a girl over, then buggered off. He said that there was no Police report and that that proved I was lying.

(Di Meo's, Whitley Bay, if you know it).

PriOn1 · 20/05/2023 06:30

To go back to the GB News interview, it filled in one of the details I had been wondering about, which was how the actual argument had kicked off. I had wondered whether Vanessa had really been something of a difficult customer regarding the cash/card discussion. I couldn’t really understand why Spain had felt the need to intervene unless she had been quite unpleasant.

However, Vanessa states in that interview that Spain had (unnecessarily) intervened, questioning her about whether she had a phone and pointing out that she could be traced that way. Whatever you think about people who prefer to use cash, there is no need for an employee in a cafe, facing such a customer, to say anything other than “Well I’m afraid we don’t take cash, so if you want to buy something, we’ll need to be paid by card.” Suggesting to a customer that they are being irrational is unprofessional and deliberately escalates a situation that should have been easy to defuse.

And Spain’s comment in the Vice article is quite suggestive, I think, that Spain might have done exactly what Vanessa said, and perhaps doesn’t understand how that situation would be approached by someone with adequate customer care skills.

”She was furious about not being able to pay cash, but it’s quite a common reaction from some older customers in our store, so I was ready with a response. But she just wouldn’t accept it.”

Literally the only acceptable response from an employee would be the one I mentioned above, but it’s clear from the video that Vanessa had actually paid and therefore must have used a card. If she had done so, there would be no further need for any intervention, so Spain’s version doesn’t fit with the facts that we do know from the video evidence.

Spain comes across as a very opinionated individual with poor customer skills and a very short fuse when challenged. And as someone else pointed out, any customer who was ranting and name calling in the way Spain is claiming, wouldn’t be bothering to say “don’t call me transphobic”. They would be continuing to name call and wouldn’t remotely care.

The Vice article makes it clear that Spain has learned nothing from the incident. I guess that should come as no surprise, but it confirms the impression I have that, as women continue to speak out, unless the police start doing their job, women’s rights campaigners are going to be seriously injured or worse. The barely suppressed violence is very clear.

Leftoverssandwich · 20/05/2023 10:14

The interaction sounds very much like a teenager determined to win an argument with a ‘boomer’. Familiar in my own home! But this is the workplace and this wasn’t a parent and that all makes a very big difference. (Also if glass doors got broken on the back of a disagreement about pronouns in my house there would be a very serious discussion about it.)

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/05/2023 10:36

I read it as a jeu-de-mot on the known phenomenon called 'roid rage' short for 'steroid rage'. But basically Narcissistic Rage would cover it.

Yes, exactly.

MavisMcMinty · 20/05/2023 10:44

Nurses have to deal all the time with confused, aggressive, or (in A&E) drunk patients. If anyone had filmed me reacting like this, I too would have been summarily dismissed. There are ways of managing conflict without inflaming it. Luna needs to do a customer care course, John Lewis (excellent customer service) used to do these courses back in my nursing days.

Tallisker · 20/05/2023 11:51

The blatant ageism in that comment about 'older people' makes me so cross.

BezMills · 20/05/2023 11:57

Starbucks is a giant franchise operation with standardised training.

Luna will have had not only basic customer service training but as a duty manager, second level advanced training to manage any escalated customer disputes that johnny no-stars cannot handle.

They don't lack training.

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 20/05/2023 12:06

I’m sick of these autogynephiliacs in woman face. They are a danger to women and children.

SidewaysOtter · 20/05/2023 16:49

They don't lack training.

I suspect it’s a case of Special Glitter People feeling that rules don’t apply to them.

Emotionalsupportviper · 21/05/2023 21:39

SinnerBoy · 20/05/2023 04:33

EmotionalSupportViper

Personally I'd both press criminal charges with the police and sue the *rse off him in civil court for assaulting me and damaging my property, but I appreciate that some people might just be sick of the whole carry on.

I'd definitely have the Police on someone, if they carried on like that with me. I suppose people expect the cops to arrive at everything nowadays, when in the past, they'd shrug things off with an FFS.

People still don't report everything. On another forum, there was a cycling zealot, who insisted that cyclists may always cycle on the pavement.

I commented that I'd seen a man and woman, cycling through a crowd and that they'd knocked a girl over, then buggered off. He said that there was no Police report and that that proved I was lying.

(Di Meo's, Whitley Bay, if you know it).

I do.

Adults cycling the pavement is contrary to the highway code. because it is bliddy dangerous.

https://www.first4lawyers.com/news-and-resources/cycling-on-the-pavement-what-are-the-rules/#:~:text=It%27s%20generally%20accepted%20that%20cycling,suddenly%20vanished%20into%20thin%20air.

Cycling on the Pavement: What are the Rules?

Knowing whether cycling on the pavement is technically legal or not can be challenging, but it's important that the rules are followed to keep all road users safe.

https://www.first4lawyers.com/news-and-resources/cycling-on-the-pavement-what-are-the-rules/#:~:text=It%27s%20generally%20accepted%20that%20cycling,suddenly%20vanished%20into%20thin%20air.

YouJustDoYou · 22/05/2023 06:38

SidewaysOtter · 20/05/2023 16:49

They don't lack training.

I suspect it’s a case of Special Glitter People feeling that rules don’t apply to them.

Societal or otherwise.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/05/2023 10:38

Good piece. Dan should look into the truthiness of Ben Hunte in general. Interesting that Starbucks were so unequivocal.