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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Video of Starbucks employee in UK branch

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FisherthemsFriend · 08/05/2023 11:11

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1655477645184835586

It’s not clear what the customer said, it’s presumed she misgenders the employee as he calls her transphobic. He calls her Karen and then either grabs the phone or the person who’s filming.

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1655477645184835586

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StarbucksKaren · 09/05/2023 21:26

VaddaABeetch · 09/05/2023 21:10

My pronouns are

Fee/Fi/FoFum, (I smell bullshit.

😂😂😂

RealityFan · 09/05/2023 21:27

GailBlancheViola · 09/05/2023 18:38

You not only expect that people perceive you as you wish to be perceived, but you also feel justified in meeting out punishment when they don't comply. Furthermore the scale of that punishment is yours to determine.

Indeed, fuck the reality the rest of us inhabit their perception of themselves even though totally fucking invisible to the naked eye is to be upheld at all times.

They see what they want to see in their "mirror to their soul".

And then expect everyone to see the same reflection. Whereas in reality what we see is...reality.

It's like being blind pissed, and not understanding why people are not in on it, why they don't think you're the world's greatest comedian, or the best looking guy in the world.

Because my friend, you're a drunk and a boor. Not funny in the least, and looking like a total arse.

Abhannmor · 09/05/2023 21:35

' Petty little sawdust Caesars'

I think that was a judge's description of mods and rockers who trashed Margate and Brighton. But it seems to fit these bullies.

pickledandpuzzled · 09/05/2023 21:36

There was an earlier review about a very small man being difficult with customers. I can't remember the details, but it definitely implied a transman staff member being very touchy.

So perhaps not a one off.

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 21:41

NecessaryScene · 09/05/2023 19:36

And how are you supposed to know who identifies as what sex?

Don't think I've ever been to a Starbucks, because having to figure out what sort coffee you want just seemed far too confusing. This isn't changing my mind.

It's horrible anyway unless you put an extra shot in. I haven't been in years.

Ourladycheesusedatum · 09/05/2023 21:48

VaddaABeetch · 09/05/2023 17:02

I AM KAREN.

I AM SPARTACUS KAREN

StarbucksKaren · 09/05/2023 21:53

Ourladycheesusedatum · 09/05/2023 21:48

I AM SPARTACUS KAREN

Spartacus Karen even sounds a bit like Starbucks Karen 🤔

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 09/05/2023 21:57

Leftoverssandwich · 09/05/2023 18:54

I am actually astonished that there are Twitter accounts complaining that Starbucks hasn't defended their staff against transphobia. I genuinely find it hard to see how someone can watch that footage and not see how unpleasant and intimidating the staff member's behaviour is.

I'm not surprised at all. It's the same reasoning that underpins ISIL beheading infidels, anti-abortion fanatics shooting abortion providers, and Boko Haram abducting a classful of school girls. When someone becomes an extremist, the ends justify any means, no matter how awful the means are.

StarbucksKaren · 09/05/2023 21:57

LizzieSiddal · 09/05/2023 21:51

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12064209/Woman-accused-transphobic-Starbucks-worker-insists-shed-used-word-lady.html

Apparently this is what happens. Is it just me who can’t make head nor tail of what went on?

Excellent now we have a photo of StarbucksKaren too

dapsnotplimsolls · 09/05/2023 22:01

StarbucksKaren · 09/05/2023 20:05

I haven’t quite thought this through yet but I want all my pronouns to be based on Karen.

Please help me with how it would work so I can get earrings sorted too

Ke/Kar/Kars.

Rightsraptor · 09/05/2023 22:02

So not Karen at all, but Vanessa.

I don't understand the DM story. The bloke who kicked off and was clapping in Vanessa's face and calling her Karen etc is trans, isn't he? But his ire was provoked by Vanessa referring to one of the other staff as a 'lady', this person apparently not IDing as a woman. Have I got that right?

So how many trans people should we expect any one branch of Starbucks to contain?

dapsnotplimsolls · 09/05/2023 22:03

I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere - how many Trans/Nbs does it take to make a cup of coffee?

Faffertea · 09/05/2023 22:03

@Emotionalsupportviper

Will the splatter guns fire weetabic banana horror* instead of custard in honour of LangCleg?

*I actually quite like banana on mashed up weetabix

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 09/05/2023 22:06

dapsnotplimsolls · 09/05/2023 22:03

I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere - how many Trans/Nbs does it take to make a cup of coffee?

No number of enbies is sufficient to make a single cup of coffee because they are all too busy choosing their new pronouns to make the coffee.

Usedtobeuser76538 · 09/05/2023 22:08

@Rightsraptor I can assure you that it is very common in this branch of Starbucks. Most of the staff use regular names alongside their pronouns, but the extremely tall pink haired person has picked a name from Harry Potter to add to the confusion.

littleripper · 09/05/2023 22:09

OMG in the article it is so clear the woman tried to get it right - called the person "lady" - I assumed she'd said "him"!!! It was because they are a they them not a lady that they went berserko!

ArabeIIaScott · 09/05/2023 22:09

One to grind the binaries, one to rage against the machine, one to do a lot of frothing, and one to throw the coffee over their head in a protest at the caffascchino.

StarbucksKaren · 09/05/2023 22:10

dapsnotplimsolls · 09/05/2023 22:01

Ke/Kar/Kars.

Thanks @dapsnotplimsolls those pros have a good ring to them

ArabeIIaScott · 09/05/2023 22:11

Usedtobeuser76538 · 09/05/2023 22:08

@Rightsraptor I can assure you that it is very common in this branch of Starbucks. Most of the staff use regular names alongside their pronouns, but the extremely tall pink haired person has picked a name from Harry Potter to add to the confusion.

Ooh. Interesting!

QuintanaRoo · 09/05/2023 22:12

Usedtobeuser76538 · 09/05/2023 20:56

The tall former employee with the pink hair wears a name badge with a random non gender specific word as their name. Their badge states their pronouns as "they". They are not the only one whose badge says "they" in the branch although most of the other staff have more conventional names and appearances, so it would be easy to make a mistake in the staff's minds if you didn't look at their badges..

They take an age to serve anyone in the store, spending most of their time ignoring the customers. The window was smashed.

I’m intrigued by the random non gender specific word as a name.

do you mean something like Alex which is non gender specific or something like Television which is random and also non gender specific.

Usedtobeuser76538 · 09/05/2023 22:13

There are two NBPs involved. The first one on the till looks female but has "they" on their badge. They told Vanessa from Cowes that she couldn't pay with cash.

Very Tall Pink Haired Person (VTPHP) who also prefers to be called "they" kicked off as their colleague had been misgendered by Vanessa from Cowes. VTPHP was not referred to as a lady at any point.

QuintanaRoo · 09/05/2023 22:14

Sorry, seen your other post about Harry Potter name.

which is odd seeing as there’s all the trans hate for JKR.

im guessing Dobby. 😆

QuintanaRoo · 09/05/2023 22:14

Or Tonks.

Emotionalsupportviper · 09/05/2023 22:16

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