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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Video of Starbucks employee in UK branch

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FisherthemsFriend · 08/05/2023 11:11

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1655477645184835586

It’s not clear what the customer said, it’s presumed she misgenders the employee as he calls her transphobic. He calls her Karen and then either grabs the phone or the person who’s filming.

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1655477645184835586

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Emotionalsupportviper · 09/05/2023 16:15

Horizons83 · 09/05/2023 16:02

Mmmm - I wonder which one will end up getting a caution?

Does assault and damage to property trump Literal Violence?

turbonerd · 09/05/2023 16:20

Emotionalsupportviper · 09/05/2023 16:09

Obviously I make my own nettle tea from non-colonial nettles gathered from the Right Side of History . . . . (the Left side of History is next to the park and alsatians pittle on the nettles there, so I don't touch them.)

Ah, yes, a bit too «exotic» with nettles from the Left Side of History. Mind you, it could give a tang…

Anyway. What are spats? I fear I want them too, without googling even!
And my pistol. From the 24 and 1/2 Century!!

Emotionalsupportviper · 09/05/2023 16:24

They are white shoe covers favoured by gangesters and Men-about-Town during the 20's and 30's.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/WHITE-GANGSTER-COVERS-FANCY-ACCESSORY/dp/B074ZLB9K3

They look spiffing!

(Highland pipers wear them, too, but theirs are longer ones.)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/WHITE-GANGSTER-COVERS-FANCY-ACCESSORY/dp/B074ZLB9K3?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-womens-rights-4801699-video-of-starbucks-employee-in-uk-branch

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 09/05/2023 16:30

PinkFootstool · 09/05/2023 14:07

Never really bothered myself to look at neopronouns. Fuck my life, what utter navel gazing, pretentious horseshit:

"There are a wide array of neopronouns currently in use, though some are much more common than others. Some neopronoun sets include:
Xe/xem/xyrs/xemself
Xy/xyr/xyrs/xyrself
Hi/hir/hirs/hirself
Ze/zir/zirs/zirself
Ey/em/eirs/emself
Ne/nem/nems/nemself
Fae/faer/faers/faerself
Ae/aer/aers/aerself
Thon/thon/thon/thonself
Per/per/pers/perself
Ve/ver/vers/verself
Zee/zed/zeta/ zetas/zedself".

If challenged, I'm declaring my mild speech impairment to be responsible for my inability to pronounce most of them when they sound much like him or her.

And exactly zero of these neo-pronouns does anything to end male violence, end men's sense of entitlement to women's bodies, or liberate women in any way.

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 16:35

Emotionalsupportviper · 09/05/2023 16:15

Mmmm - I wonder which one will end up getting a caution?

Does assault and damage to property trump Literal Violence?

Let's just hope the woman didn't tweet about it, or the police will be kicking her door in!

GailBlancheViola · 09/05/2023 16:44

Transparent2 · 09/05/2023 11:58

They aren’t "your" (their) pronouns are they? They are third person pronouns, used to refer to him or her. I can’t claim ownership of the pronouns someone (first person) uses to refer to me (third person) when talking to someone else (second person). I know you understand this, but TRAs don’t appear to.

Oh I agree, which is why this whole my pronouns are is such a steaming pile of crap.

turbonerd · 09/05/2023 16:45

Spiffing spats!

I’m in!

OrbandSpectacle · 09/05/2023 16:46

Shhhh! don't mention the p word or a cerain poster will plod along to put you all right.

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 09/05/2023 16:50

OrbandSpectacle · 09/05/2023 16:46

Shhhh! don't mention the p word or a cerain poster will plod along to put you all right.

Which P word is that?

VaddaABeetch · 09/05/2023 17:02

I AM KAREN.

Waitwhat23 · 09/05/2023 17:07

OrbandSpectacle · 09/05/2023 16:46

Shhhh! don't mention the p word or a cerain poster will plod along to put you all right.

Oh no. I thought it was a 'don't say it three times' deal!

TrashyPanda · 09/05/2023 17:08

01F · 09/05/2023 15:43

She Confused

He looks like a man
he sounds like a man
and he behaves like a man the way he tries to bully and intimidate a woman

why try to deny the obvious?

Badgeringabout · 09/05/2023 17:12

Must admit I feel quite sorry for people who are seemingly incapable of discerning a person's sex. It must be really hard to navigate the world with such an affliction.

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 17:13

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 09/05/2023 16:50

Which P word is that?

Car Chase Police GIF

This one

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 09/05/2023 17:13

Badgeringabout · 09/05/2023 17:12

Must admit I feel quite sorry for people who are seemingly incapable of discerning a person's sex. It must be really hard to navigate the world with such an affliction.

Outright dangerous, if you are female and can't tell who is male.

Badgeringabout · 09/05/2023 17:18

Good riddance to this aggressive man. No doubt he will be considered a hero in certain circles for sticking it to a 'Karen'. Wanker.

AlisonDonut · 09/05/2023 17:19

01F · 09/05/2023 15:43

She Confused

'They' Confused

OrbandSpectacle · 09/05/2023 17:20

Are you invoking there, DerekFaker?

Badgeringabout · 09/05/2023 17:24

AlisonDonut · 09/05/2023 17:19

'They' Confused

He. 😉

BreadInCaptivity · 09/05/2023 17:30

Just going back to IW for a moment.

I really don't understand why TRA's are so incapable of calling out bad behaviour, preferring instead to roll out ludicrous excuses.

It doesn't make the person they are trying to defend look less of a dick, it just makes them look like a dick as well.

Honestly they are their own worst enemies at times.

I can well imagine the employee with their mask on honing their skills at KJK LWS event.

Repeatedly yelling at older women, clapping and intimidating to the point that behaviour is utterly normalised to the point they can't see how badly it plays and the potential repercussions of that type of protest translating into the workplace/real life.

I'm sorry for the woman (and the man filming) but my goodness events like this really do bring out the sunlight.

BreadInCaptivity · 09/05/2023 17:54

New DM article: interview with the lady in the clip

Woman accused of being 'transphobic' by worker insists she used 'lady
mol.im/a/12064209

BreadInCaptivity · 09/05/2023 17:57

From the DM:

Responding to the video, Ms Thomas posted that it did not capture the full gravity of what took place.
She writes: 'The shop had cameras so I had to be cool, it was so much worse, he snatched my bag and through (sic) it up in the air over the counter and he picked me up and through (sic) me out then slammed the door and smashed the glass in it,' followed by two laughing emojis.
Ms Thomas adds: 'He then put his coat on and done a runner, I have reported it with the police and Starbucks, he was out of order.'
In another post she writes: 'I was in complete shock, I have reported it to Starbucks and the police.'
A family friend told MailOnline that the altercation started after Ms Thomas was told by a Starbucks employee serving her that they did not accept cash payments.
The friend added: 'Vanessa just said 'Oh, another company not accepting cash payments.' A transgender Starbucks employee then confronted her and said she had to pay card.
'Vanessa told her: 'I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to the lady behind the counter.' The Starbucks employee became very angry and told Vanessa that the person behind the counter doesn't identify as a lady. And then it all kicked off and she was accused of being transphobic.'

BreadInCaptivity · 09/05/2023 18:00

Apparently the sacked worker was the store manager.

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