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Caroline F - new arrest / harassment ?

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catsrus · 27/04/2023 10:37

Caroline has just posted on twitter that the police were trying to force entry - WTF going on?

Three officers saying she has to go with them.

Three.

twitter.com/cf_farrow/status/1651514281471492096?s=46&t=rbPMHI1uvxUAiQC4E1EE3A

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MissMissive · 09/05/2023 16:22

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Whoops, forgot to let Sleeping Policemen lie 😂

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 16:29

I don't think it's wose to mock or even name SH on this thread. It probably won't do CF any favours either.

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 16:33

Polling from Pink News. How unbiased and representative of the whole populatio is THAT going to be?

I think more recent, wider-reaching polls tell a different story.

Shelefttheweb · 09/05/2023 16:37

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 16:33

Polling from Pink News. How unbiased and representative of the whole populatio is THAT going to be?

I think more recent, wider-reaching polls tell a different story.

A three year old poll.

Funnily enough when women it is made clear that Self ID includes intact men stripping off in front of teenage girls in the communal changing room they change their mind pretty fast!

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 16:41

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 16:29

I don't think it's wose to mock or even name SH on this thread. It probably won't do CF any favours either.

And also, dancingtortoise that is NOT revenge porn, and you downplay what actual victims have been through by naming it so.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/revenge-porn

Revenge Porn

Revenge Porn: sharing private sexual materials with intent to cause distress

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/revenge-porn

Brisland · 09/05/2023 17:01

@Pixiedust1234 - a litigious type, who identifies as a (amongst other things) lawyer. Using the name attracts monitoring, so there may now be an attempt to get this thread removed….

EveryWitchWaybutLoose · 09/05/2023 17:05

Funnily enough when women it is made clear that Self ID includes intact men stripping off in front of teenage girls in the communal changing room they change their mind pretty fast!

And I think we saw an even faster response when Scotland just recently tried to pass a bill which would allow violent male rapists to be imprisoned with women.

Brisland · 09/05/2023 17:07

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 16:33

Polling from Pink News. How unbiased and representative of the whole populatio is THAT going to be?

I think more recent, wider-reaching polls tell a different story.

Yes, and more recent polls show many people think “transwomen” are natal females who identify as men, when in fact a “transwoman” is a male who identifies as a woman.

Pixiedust1234 · 09/05/2023 17:21

Brisland · 09/05/2023 17:01

@Pixiedust1234 - a litigious type, who identifies as a (amongst other things) lawyer. Using the name attracts monitoring, so there may now be an attempt to get this thread removed….

Explains why my post was deleted. I only asked who they were Confused so thanks for the heads up.

DancingTortoise · 09/05/2023 19:25

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 16:33

Polling from Pink News. How unbiased and representative of the whole populatio is THAT going to be?

I think more recent, wider-reaching polls tell a different story.

The polling was done by YouGov, not Pink News.

DancingTortoise · 09/05/2023 19:26

It absolutely was revenge porn and I’m horrified you are defending it just because the victim is someone you don’t like.

Shelefttheweb · 09/05/2023 19:32

DancingTortoise · 09/05/2023 19:25

The polling was done by YouGov, not Pink News.

YouGov carry out polls, they don’t set questions. This poll is still three years old and where the implications of Self ID are made clear women are also clear in rejecting it.

Brefugee · 09/05/2023 19:42

it goes something like:
should tw be allowed into women's spaces?
yes

to be clear, tw might be men who have decided to transition as little as 3 months ago, they have had no surgery and may or may not take hormones (i would add: they may or may not shave). should they be allowed into women's spaces?
fuck no

OldCrone · 09/05/2023 19:50

tw might be men who have decided to transition as little as 3 months ago

Not quite. tw might be men who have decided to transition as little as 3 seconds ago.

As soon as a man declares he is a 'transwoman' he becomes a transwoman and has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.

Brefugee · 09/05/2023 20:05

I'm thinking about the wording in the surveys, so to try to be fair I'm talking as though the Scottish suggestion was in place.
But yes, in effect any big burly chap can suddenly decide to "be a woman" and without altering his behaviour in any way, must be accepted as a woman.

If more people actually knew that - acceptance would be less. Time will tell.

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 21:29

DancingTortoise · 09/05/2023 19:26

It absolutely was revenge porn and I’m horrified you are defending it just because the victim is someone you don’t like.

I didn't defend it. I'm just saying it's not revenge porn. Because it's not.

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 21:32

Reposting photographs from a public website (in this case a dating site iirc and to put it politely)is NOT revenge porn. You could possibly argue it's doxing.

Anyway this is another derailment that we don't really need.

Bosky · 10/05/2023 06:39

DerekFaker · 09/05/2023 12:22

Not directly related to CF, but another example of police taking tweets more seriously than actual crime:

I'm still horrified by this! WTAF!!!

There is much more info on her Twitter timeline and it is awful. I don't want to derail this thread by discussing it here but I haven't time to start a new thread.

Maybe someone can pick up the baton?

Relevant tweets to date (some include audio as well as images).

April 24
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1650530543992225800

May 6 - 6.07pm (tweet in screenshot by DerekFaker)
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1654895568387289095

May 6 - 9.01 pm (more info QTing above tweet)
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1654939517667663874

May 8 - 3.25pm
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1655579636900802568

May 8 - 12.19pm
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1655532779088621570

May 9 - 3.22pm
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1655941213693038594

May 9 - 3.39pm (link to Guardian article about a similar case?)
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1655945645063282690

SinnerBoy · 10/05/2023 08:26

TrainedByCats · Yesterday 12:41

Anti monarchy protestors are considering suing the Met police.

As well they might, many were arrested seemingly as part of a pre-planned operation, despite being told that they would be allowed to do particular things, then having those things used as justification for arrest.

A high ranking cop told the Guardian that no charges will be made. Others have said that about 40 are on bail. Another said that it was all justified, because "what if," which I find exceptionally sinister.

It all seems to be part of the same pattern, unjustifiable arrests, intimidation and threats, keeping people in bail, with no prospect of any charges.

Brefugee · 10/05/2023 08:56

i wonder if they'll arrest people with placards or megaphones etc at the nest LWS thing? it will be interesting to see.

SinnerBoy · 10/05/2023 09:08

Yes, especially if they agree beforehand with the organisers that placards and megaphones will be permitted.

DerekFaker · 10/05/2023 11:02

Bosky · 10/05/2023 06:39

I'm still horrified by this! WTAF!!!

There is much more info on her Twitter timeline and it is awful. I don't want to derail this thread by discussing it here but I haven't time to start a new thread.

Maybe someone can pick up the baton?

Relevant tweets to date (some include audio as well as images).

April 24
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1650530543992225800

May 6 - 6.07pm (tweet in screenshot by DerekFaker)
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1654895568387289095

May 6 - 9.01 pm (more info QTing above tweet)
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1654939517667663874

May 8 - 3.25pm
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1655579636900802568

May 8 - 12.19pm
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1655532779088621570

May 9 - 3.22pm
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1655941213693038594

May 9 - 3.39pm (link to Guardian article about a similar case?)
https://twitter.com/SMojsiejenko/status/1655945645063282690

I will do. Is it ok if I copy your post with the links?

Bosky · 10/05/2023 21:12

Derek Faker Please do! I should have said so. My apologies!

DrBlackbird · 11/05/2023 09:51

Police in one force able to send round officers multiple times to a woman accused of hurtful tweets.

Whilst police in another force not feeling a duty of care to inform a woman of the presence of an abusive ex partner spotted on her property reported by a neighbour on a 999 call. Ex who went on to stab her 7 times in front of her children.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/09/police-should-have-told-woman-ex-was-at-her-house-before-stabbing-court-finds

Police should have told woman ex was at her house before stabbing, court finds

Northamptonshire force failed to pass on warning that abusive ex was outside woman’s home before he stabbed her repeatedly

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/09/police-should-have-told-woman-ex-was-at-her-house-before-stabbing-court-finds

Felix125 · 11/05/2023 12:49

DrBlackbird
I completely agree. And that's why we should be listening to what the reporting person has said. Investigating and safeguarding properly. And what better way to safeguard someone than arrest the perpetrator.

It doesn't make it clear where Northamptonshire failed here - was it at the caller taker stage, dispatch stage or police officer stage?

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