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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jackie Green reacts to KJK

302 replies

FisherthemsFriend · 25/04/2023 12:05

https://twitter.com/The_StateMedia/status/1650560961353248769

Above is a clipped version, highlighting the many times JG calls KJK a bitch. In the Twitter thread is JG’s original video.

I wasn’t sure whether to post this. Really the person to criticise is Susie Green, but at the same time JG is an adult and has publicly made a video using misogynistic language. Or does the background mean JG should be off-limits? Opinions welcome.

https://twitter.com/The_StateMedia/status/1650560961353248769

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Boiledbeetle · 25/04/2023 14:19

FannyCann · 25/04/2023 14:14

LOL to that @Boiledbeetle
I hope someone clever has saved the clip, it would make a good montage with the clip of JG and the grandmother chortling at the "lack of material to work with" as JG so coyly put it.

Yes CryptoFascistMadameCholet has screen recorded just that bit.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 25/04/2023 14:20

Jazz Jennings has done one too? About how nice his mum is? Anyone seen it?

MishyJDI · 25/04/2023 14:21

She looks really happy. No wonder she wants to push back after all the critical stuff aimed at her mum who was just doing what she felt best for her child.

I see a well adjusted young adult, sick of all the bullstuff, and having a bit of fun.

Good on her! An advert for trans for sure :)

FannyCann · 25/04/2023 14:21

Well done Posh.

Alas I lost my twitter account and as Twitter helpfully provided police with Posie's details when SG complained about her, I won't be complying with their request for proof of ID etc.
So I've lost a lot of bookmarked tweets. There was one from several years ago when JG explained that his surgery was simply correcting "a small birth defect".
Typical of me not to have saved a screenshot though no doubt someone on twitter will dig it out.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 25/04/2023 14:22

Are you on glue, @MishyJDI ?

RoseslnTheHospital · 25/04/2023 14:23

Someone who calls other people bitch and prick with that frequency is not a happy camper, MishyJDI.

SpeedSnap · 25/04/2023 14:26

stealtheatingtunnocks · 25/04/2023 14:20

Jazz Jennings has done one too? About how nice his mum is? Anyone seen it?

No, do you have a link?

Shocked, shocked I tell you, I watched I am Jazz. Jazz who tells us that they are a woman, wrote a book telling people that trans made then happy, whilst being depressed and now tells us that they have a lovely mother.

PronounssheRa · 25/04/2023 14:28

Crikey, dumped, deported lonely and depressed struggling to get up in the morning, and questioning their sexual identity.

All Jackie's words

Mishy 'they seem happy'

Callallamaa · 25/04/2023 14:29

I did watch most of the full video and was struck by a couple of things;

I have watched JG before on a programme that followed their entrance into Miss World, where they won a regional heat, all very 'you go girl...stunning and brave' but they did seem a lot happier then (6-7 years ago.)

Jackie Green seemed unable to comprehend that KJK was accusing Suzie Green and her husband of homophobia and that the father (while he has come round to JG being a 'woman' now) was unhappy as he had a son who was not the male stereotype. KJK was not saying transwomen are bad because they are male but that non-conformity is fine without drugs and surgery. It seems as though JG doesn't undertstand this argument and just thinks KJK is like the bully's at his school that would yell at him for being effeminate.

It felt that this was the first time JG had heard any challenge to his mother's narrative.

When KJK talked about the lack of sexual function JG did not refute or contradict that.

JG thinks that puberty blockers are not a new treatment path and quoted their doctor saying that they had been used 'for years' on girls who experience early puberty, but didn't realise that this is only for a very short period of time and there is a lot of evidence of negative side effects.
It shows how Suzie Green was 'sold' this treatment and then made a career out of evangelizing it to us here in the UK.

BloodyHellKen · 25/04/2023 14:29

MishyJDI · 25/04/2023 14:21

She looks really happy. No wonder she wants to push back after all the critical stuff aimed at her mum who was just doing what she felt best for her child.

I see a well adjusted young adult, sick of all the bullstuff, and having a bit of fun.

Good on her! An advert for trans for sure :)

😂

Florissante · 25/04/2023 14:29

RoseslnTheHospital · 25/04/2023 14:23

Someone who calls other people bitch and prick with that frequency is not a happy camper, MishyJDI.

Agreed. JG is clearly neither in a good place nor a happy person.

fruitbrewhaha · 25/04/2023 14:30

I expect the Greens have seen how much Dylan Mulvany has blown up this last year and is probably raking it in, plus all the adoration, and are thinking, fuck, we’ve missed a trick. DM hasn’t even medically transitioned and he is all over the place while JG has done it all but is not getting any advert deals or recognition. They, as in the Greens, could have made a very sensible measured response in answer to KJK’s points and said JG is very happy, livin’ her best life, couldn’t have done it without SG, so much thanks and pride blah blah. They could have made a better attempt instead of this shitshow. But there we go. I don’t this they are cleaver enough to think of it.

Shelefttheweb · 25/04/2023 14:39

I see a well adjusted young adult

Ah so you spotted the immaturity too then, Mishy?

DialSquare · 25/04/2023 14:39

stealtheatingtunnocks · 25/04/2023 14:22

Are you on glue, @MishyJDI ?

Either that or JDI stands for Jack Daniels Ingester.

Magnetoincognito · 25/04/2023 14:40

Just a warning. If you use the 'wrong' pronoun for JG on here you will get deleted. I put up a very kind post about JG being vulnerable but because I am gender critical the MN pronoun police deleted it.

Mollyollydolly · 25/04/2023 14:40

It's just sad.

WinterTrees · 25/04/2023 14:48

I'm trying to watch the whole thing and it is horribly uncomfortable viewing. JG seems to be projecting an image that is shifting inside JG's own head, which would account for the changing accents and odd, self-conscious, performative aspect. As numerous pps have noted, it's the kind of thing you'd expect from a 14 year old, not someone more than twice that age.

What is also noticeable (so far - about half way through) is that JG is agreeing with much of what KJK is saying, and just slinging the odd savage insult in when it touches a personal nerve, mostly over pronouns. There's an awful lot of childish self-delusion going on, which doesn't make JG, or this ideology, look good. JG also inadvertently lets slip a lot of interesting admissions. Frequently slipping into silly voices and firing off misogynistic slurs make a sharp contrast with KJK's analysis. There really is no counter argument beyond 'you're wrong, bitch.'

(Also, Bigorty in the video title made me laugh.)

WeeBisom · 25/04/2023 14:50

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Datun · 25/04/2023 14:54

ArabeIIaScott · 25/04/2023 14:18

I have a copy of the film, and a transcript.

Can you message me with the transcript by any chance?

I knew the video would be removed. I remarked to somebody right after I watched the first 12 minutes, that if anything is an advert for the complete abolition of 'gender affirming surgery and medicine', that video is it.

MalagaNights · 25/04/2023 14:56

Jackie is on twitter and only follows 2 accounts.

One of which seems to be of a trans women who does porn.

Which seems.. unhealthy.

SpeedSnap · 25/04/2023 15:00

Datun · 25/04/2023 14:54

Can you message me with the transcript by any chance?

I knew the video would be removed. I remarked to somebody right after I watched the first 12 minutes, that if anything is an advert for the complete abolition of 'gender affirming surgery and medicine', that video is it.

I wonder if KJK will respond?

CorvusPurpureus · 25/04/2023 15:01

Datun · 25/04/2023 13:28

I'm only 20 minutes in, Corvus, and I have to leave it for now.

I feel like I'm watching the beginnings of something unravel for Jackie tho.

did you get that impression at the end of the video?

Yes.

It all felt...very very angry. & OK, in Jackie's shoes I'd be pretty pissed off with KJK - if only for saying stuff that I'm sure Susie has tried very hard to keep Jackie from hearing.

But all the flouncy 'bitch!' comments directed at KJK felt...I dunno. Performative. Like that wasn't really quite who Jackie was really raging at.

Very uncomfortable viewing.

ReadersD1gest · 25/04/2023 15:05

Extremely disturbed individual, unfortunately.

Shelefttheweb · 25/04/2023 15:06

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 25/04/2023 15:07

How can a woman ( that would be ‘Posie’) be a prick? Doesn’t that refer slightingly to the male organ? Which Posie, being a woman, doesn’t possess.

Some confusion here…..or is having male genitalia the worst insult that can be used?