Dylan Mulvany and Maybelline

[WhisperingAutistic]

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My boycott list is huge.
There are going to be no brands left at this rate.

John Maclean is a really interesting man who is an alt presenting makeup artist. He’s just … John. John who wears makeup.

Quite.

It's like a woman-face version of Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em: Michael Crawford camping it up on rollerskates.

Not really what the average woman aspires to give the image of when turning to their make up.

They record their journey with both hormones and laser on their TikTok, so you are misinformed. Laser takes lots of sessions before you see an effect, and at least a year. Trust me, I have PCOS and facial hair, I know.

I take total offence at the use of "queer" people dying of AIDS mentioned in the MAC ad.

At the time "queer" was a slur. Nowadays it includes a healthy dose of straight people. Plus the majority of those dying awful deaths were gay men.

Now while this whole trans movement specifically states that trans women are women, that means DM is a woman. I have no idea if DM is supposed to be a straight woman or a lesbian - according to DM and DM's supporters' own definition, definitely not according to heterosexual or homosexual - but DM is DEFINITELY not supposed to be a gay man.

As DM's target audience is young women - because Maybelline and Mac are not targeting overworked, underpaid, exhausted middle aged mothers, nor are they targeting the vast majority of men of any age - they're essentially rewriting history in this ad. "Queer" =/= gay man to that audience.

It's also hugely disrespectful to all those who suffered under that slur while they and/or their friends were dying. I have close friend who has ONE friend left from that time. All his other friends from then died before they were 35. Queer still isn't a term he can deal with.

I agee. Growing up with a gay sister the word that was yelled/hissed at me was ‘q’.

No one used it in a ’good’ way. It was a word many gay people would have heard as they were being physically attacked.

So no, seeing straight people ‘camping it up’ and announcing their ‘Q-ness’ sticks in my craw. They don’t know what it means.

Glad I am not the only one really uncomfortable with the use of word queer. The peak of the AIDS epidemic would have gone over my head as I was too young.
Growing up it was a slur and anyone that used it was homophobic.
When I was in university in the noughties I knew quite a few people who came out. Myself and my friends never cared what sexuality other people were. I naively thought that society had move passed homophobia.

Homosexual people have continually shared these issues and discomforts. The TQ+ lobby does not care. Compassion/respect/care for identity and language/lived experience is apparently only for their own members.

I explained the cotton ceiling, male lesbians and spicy straights using the Q word to my (gay) sister (who used to roll her eyes when I said I was refusing to use XYZ product or service) and boy, was she unimpressed. She went on a very long rant.

We were going out to eat and she suggested a place that gave money to the fishy folk. I said no thanks and explained why. She rolled her eyes (she thought behind my back) - then I got a call a few weeks later when the merde hit the fan about them. She was raging (she did a bit of digging and realised it wasn’t the fluffy clouds and pretty flags it projected).

And then she saw Sam Smith…

$6bn off >$130bn is less than a 5% drop. This is hardly groundbreaking stuff, even if it were true:

It went from $131bn on 11 Apr, to £127.5bn on 12 Apr - a fall of $3.5bn, not $6bn. As of yesterday, it is worth $132bn.

https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/bud/market-cap/

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-budweiser-satire-idUSL1N36E1GX

<shrug>

I'm done with them. And their rep is now going to be an awkward one. 'Down with the kids' and misogynist as fuck tends to be a bit of a turn off really.

I know. And this place is like a magnet for weirdos who support it.

I saw a report saying Bud had dropped 17% in sales over the controversy. Probably in the FT.

I’ll have a look.

It's behind a paywall you but get the gist from the headline.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bud-light-executives-on-leave-after-trans-influencer-row-0nlz3dn0b

DM is a glorified Audrey Hepburn cosplayer.

this. And a lot more quotes from the wonderful comments above. As far as I understand DM has had a lot of face surgery to make his face more feminine and beautiful. We’d all look amazing if we’d had the same. Still hanging onto his Willy though.

Because he is not wearing makeup as a man ( which he is) but is wearing makeup as womanface. He isn’t a woman. People quite rightly despise and call out blackface as offensive, why is the same level of disapproval not extended to men wearing womanface?

This made me laugh https://twitter.com/MarkHazard2020/status/1651506964671746050?t=Q_Kh_tPgLO1QGnYlQJ3C7A&s=19

Tampons and Sports Bras should only be advertised by biological women. These a products where biology matters. Makeup, Beer etc fine. Do you see Nike using a Transman to model jockstraps?

DM is a glorified Audrey Hepburn cosplayer

Dylan is blurring the lines between what is a woman and what is a man.

Dylan is blurring the lines between what is an adult male and what is a female child 🤢

The cynics on the internet would say that Dylan's increasing number of sponsorships are right on track with the ultimate aims of certain movements.

I'm inclined to agree with them.

It doesn't matter that we aren't fooled.

It matters what is the acceptable party line.

If a straight man adopted a gay personna that was a set of exaggerated OTT stereotypes or a white person put on a dodgy fake accent and portrayed a bunch of racist tropes they would be cancelled faster than you can say offensive. But when a man parodies women he is rewarded with multiple lucrative advertising contracts and lauded as a role model.

Is he parodying women? He had the same mannerisms before he decided to pretend he was a woman.

I've not seen anything of DM before DM entered 'girlhood' so I have no idea how DM acted prior to deciding that DM is a 'girl' but if that is how DM behaved while claiming to be a man I'd be amazed, but even if the prancing, giggling and hair tossing was done before DM transitioned presumably it is this 'feminine' behaviour that lead DM to conclude that DM is in fact a woman. The Nike ad is just an extension of a nasty teenage boy demonstrating the concept of 'throws like girl' all exaggerated movements, stupid noises and deliberate incompetence and it is hugely insulting to women in general and female athletes in particular.

DM has made a mockery of being a woman. It's his whole persona. He is a man, always will be a man. It's insulting for companies to use someone who openly mocks women.

^This. If Maybelline had used a gender-non-conforming man to advertise their make-up, that would be fine! It's not about make-up being only for women. It's about the toe-curlingly girly simpering womanface that Dylan does. He gives me the massive heebie jeebies.

Bud Light has lost it's LGBT special status because it has backed down and dropped Dylan in light of it's staggering loss of sales.

So now it has angered everyone.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/05/18/bud-light-loses-lgbtq-score-after-dylan-mulvaney-transgender-campaign/70229893007/

It will he interesting to see what difference Anheuser-Busch losing its LGBTQ+ rating does for sales.

If sales remain where they are, recover or increase, the bean counters will point out that the rating did naff all for the company commercially. And making money is what it's all about, not virtue signalling.