Do you already own anything by Nike that you no longer want to wear

[ChristinaXYZ]

Sharron Davis has just posted an idea - if you're really angry with Nike and no longer want to wear the stuff you've already got then send it back to them. I would love the thought of their offices being swamped.

The tweet is here:

https://twitter.com/sharrond62/status/1645015519072854017

A reply in the thread notes this as Nike UK headquarters

Film House, 142 Wardour St, London W1F 8DD

Anticipating someone pointing out the cost of living and wasting of clothes - if you're not going to wear something any more you've three choices, throw it out, charity shop or send Nike stuff to Nike in protest.

UK charity shops are so swamped with unsold clothes that it ends up abroad being their rubbish to deal with - so I reckon you can send your stuff back to Nike with a clear conscience.

And anticpating further criticism - I am not trying to Nike shame anyone who cannot afford to replace their running or gym gear - or just wants to wear what they already own. Nor am I trying to tell you not to buy Nike if it is the only thing you like or you don't care about the furore. Wear what you like, buy what you like!

But if you are angry, and don't want your Nike gear anymore then the above address is just a thought.

No battery storage that is old tech and so inefficient! It’s much more efficient to be on the grid and share my electricity.

The excess electricity I generate goes direct to the national grid and I get a credit of 50% per KWh of what it would cost for me to draw a KWh of electricity from the grid.

So some days, I’m giving electricity and some days I’m taking electricity. This smooths out the boost on sunny days and the lull on dark and rainy days.

I usually end up getting a net payment instead of owing a bill. So I’m using a lot less electricity than I generate.

Heat is passive solar plus the odd as needed ceramic heater.

I am saving up for the new photovoltaic windows. These will replace my solar panels. Much easier to maintain. No worries about high winds, weight on roof, pigeons deciding to nest under panels and so on.

None of us have dicks, though.

None of us get invited to the White House to tell the President of the USA what it means to be a 'girl', either.

Wonder if those two things are connected somehow 🤔

The only purpose left is to respond to other posters asking me questions, flinging allegations of dishonest intentions and what not.

I’d be happy to move on, but apparently my asking us to be green in how we protest has touched a nerve. I’m as bemused as anyone. Didn’t think it was such a controversial thing to say.

Sigh. I brought it on myself. I didn't think I needed to include " is commonly understood" in my criteria - kind of thought that was implicit in "everyone" - but apparently I do.

I thought it was obvious that I meant a group noun for all adult human females - a sex-specific word to replace "woman" in social and political discourse - not just a word for an arbitrary group of women, but apparently it wasn't.

Let me rephrase.

Give me one, just one, group noun for adult human females that is commonly understood, that everyone accepts is female-only, and that can be used in social and political discourse in the place of the word "Women" to make it clear the group in queston are specifically female without being delegitimised by TRAs using phrases like "transphobic dog whistle".

That said, even in the context of how you interpreted my question I'm not sure I agree that a "gossip" is specifically female-only. Defining it as "a group of women" simply means it'll pick up the same sex profile as whatever the listener believes "women" to have surely? (Assuming they know the word in the first place of course).

But nevertheless, thank you for providing, by digging out a rarely used (and clearly misogynistic) term for women, a great example of how hard it is to find a female-only group noun now that Woman is being claimed as mixed sex.

Yes I know, unfortunate spelling error on your part.

@Helleofabore
”I imagine if you…”

Thats your problem. You’re in your own world imagining things that did not happen and were never going to happen. I’ve already stated my intentions clearly and repeatedly. It’s not my fault the reality doesn’t match your imagined fantasy of me. You seem to be the only one confused here as to my purpose on this thread. I kindly suggest you take a break, a deep breath and perhaps reread the thread. Cheers x 👋

What’s not commonly understood about “a gossip”? It’s not rarely used. I didn’t dig it up. It was off the top of my head.

Why should we surrender the word “women” and come up with some other word? It commonly means and is defined as adult human females. TRAs can go fuck themselves if they want to say the word “women” is transphobic. I’m not going to support getting a new word that means woman!

@L3ThirtySeven You are derailing the thread so I think moving on is a great idea.

So some days, I’m giving electricity and some days I’m taking electricity. This smooths out the boost on sunny days and the lull on dark and rainy days

I find this incredibly hard to believe in the UK. Do you have triple glazing? What’s your insulation? Feel free to ignore my questions I’m just planning an off grid home and find the reliance on solar alone remarkable.

What's the address for sending stuff back to nike please?

I know the term but I don't think I've ever heard it in everyday discourse, just the odd use in literature. Mostly I've come across it in the context of someone saying/writing how funny/sad it is that Gossip has this meaning rather than anyone actually using it.

Although that said, in the interest of reclaiming old slurs, a regular international feminist conference called The Gossip might be a thing of glory 😁

Why should we surrender the word “women” and come up with some other word? It commonly means and is defined as adult human females. TRAs can go fuck themselves if they want to say the word “women” is transphobic. I’m not going to support getting a new word that means woman!

Oh I 100% agree. My point was that when Nike, or any other brand or cultural/political voice with great influence and reach, legitimises the use of Woman/women to include male people, it reduces your ability to use women to mean Adult Human Females and know that that is the meaning understood by your audience.

And as we have already seen, Woman/women is now being claimed politically and socially to include males, in sport, in women-only spaces, in protests, in Feminism itself.

Which is why it is so important to reject even stuff that seems trivial like Dylan in a sports bra. Not because a male is wearing woman's clothes, but because he's being accepted by Nike as a legitimate woman and that is one more drip in the erosion of Women as a female-only group.

I'm really glad you see the problem too.

Personally, I'm totally convinced that it is my duty to the planet to forego the postal service and go to the Nike offices myself.

I wonder what the emissions will be to transport me, eh? I won't need a jiffy bag at least.

What's that? The emissions of my own journey would be worse? Oh dear. Are we to cancel all forms of in-person protest then? Has anyone told Extinction Rebellion?

What I always find fascinating is people who have obviously never campaigned about anything complaining about tried and tested techniques eg
'oh you're a fascist if you boycott a company!'
Obviously no knowledge of anti-apartheid and fairtrade campaigns
'Oh you're being hateful by sending stuff to a company office!'
Completely missed the campaigns against Nestle, etc
'oh you can't take DCs to a protest'
Never heard of Greenham or poll tax and bedroom tax protests or anti-war matches

They consistently show they have never cared about any campaigns ... except the one that tries to silence and abuse women.

hundreds to thousands more packages

God I hope its many many thousands. Make the point well enough that they cannot mistake it.

Am now tempted to go round my neighbours and see if they have any old Nike shite I can send.

The fuckwittery on this thread is very clear.

WinnieFosterFights

Agreed! I've really enjoyed this thread. I remember the time a political party (UKIP?) gave out a postage-free address, and people coordinated to send bricks through the post, so that the party would have to pay postage on receipt.

I didn't do it and I thought it was unfair to postal staff to send bricks through the post. But no-one said anything about the environment!

How wonderful that we are giving the Nike gear to the manufacturers for recycling!

Rhinos, what a great post.

I read alot. I’m a book editor so I have gleaned a decent vocabulary.
The Gossip as a title for a feminist conference is a great idea. Its subversive and powerful. I’d go.

If you’re curious, other collective nouns that are female are
A giggle of girls
A galaxy of governesses
An impatience of wives
An ambush of widows
A herd of harlots
A riches of matrons
An expectation of midwives
A squeal of nieces
A murmur of nuns

and the most well known, a coven of witches

“Which is why it is so important to reject even stuff that seems trivial..”
I cannot agree that everything is important or in need of rejection. Because when everything is important, nothing is important. Too, such a nondiscriminating approach muddies the waters and our opponents can all too easily weaponise any objections to the “trivial” (your word not mine) to claim that all our objections are trivial; when many are critically important.

If recycling the gear is your objective, it’s more green to do that at your local clothing recycling depot. You don’t need to post them hundreds of miles away to recycle them.

Thanks for the thread was in two minds about posting back my old Nike leggings but will certainly do so now , along with a woman = adult human female card.

I’ve told Extinction Rebellion. Most of them are hypocrites anyway. You know the history of how insulate Britain came about? An Extinction Rebellion founding member was upset he’d have to pay to properly insulate his slum properties for his tenants due to the new EPC regulations. So he started insulate Britain specifically with the objective of getting the government to pay for insulation on his rental properties.

For someone who keeps saying this is a very unimportant issue, you really do post an Awful lot about it.

You know what I do if I start reading a thread that turn out completely unimportant to me, I scroll on by.

I’m not derailing the thread. It’s perfectly relevant to ask that we consider keeping our protests green and environmentally responsible. There’s no point fighting for women’s rights if by doing so we leave an uninhabitable planet.