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Hundreds at Hyde Park for Let Women Speak!

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BoreOfWhabylon · 02/04/2023 14:56

TRAs seem to be keeping away since organisers gained assurances from police that the women would, at last, be protected.
Lots of gay men also attending in support
Livestream by Venice Allen
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yun3tGCljME

Let women speak

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yun3tGCljME

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VanillaSnap · 03/04/2023 16:28

ExiledElsie · 03/04/2023 13:04

It was a bot boring TBH. Without the TRAs to provide entertainment it there was little worth watching.

Shhh you're not supposed to admit this.

I've been to quite a few of these and the ones with no protestors are interesting, informative and provide a fantastic opportunity for women to network. It's much more pleasant to meet and not come away with ringing ears.

The optics of the "be kind" crowd yelling at women is obviously interesting, but extremely unpleasant to be involved in.

I'm genuinely curious, what is it you found helpful to be informed? I mean after stating the obvious that men are men no matter what they call themselves or identify as, what else is thee left to say?

AlisonDonut · 03/04/2023 16:29

SapphosRock · 03/04/2023 12:48

I really hope the next SFW is just as peaceful but considering KJK Tweeted a picture of herself covered in tomato soup and invited the TRAs to bring eggs then I doubt it somehow.

@AlisonDonut lol no my partner supports trans rights but had nothing to do with the counter protest in Brighton.

I remember you saying you had forgotten all about it even though your partner had arranged the TRA protest?

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 16:55

AlisonDonut · 03/04/2023 16:29

I remember you saying you had forgotten all about it even though your partner had arranged the TRA protest?

Why DO TRAs insist on calling their protests ‘counter protests?’

The women at LWS Brighton were speaking about their own lived experiences, they weren’t there to protest against another, third event.

When Scottish women assembled outside Holyrood to protest against the GRR Bill, the TRAs could legitimately describe their presence as a ‘counter protest’ against the protest organised by For Women Scot, which was a protest against the bill being debated inside.

Whatever it is that TRAs do at LWS speaking tour events, cannot, in good faith, be described as a ‘counter protest’.

Describing TRA attempts to scare women into shutting up and when that fails, trying to drown their voices out with noise as ‘a counter protest’ is pure TRA propaganda.

Seems a bit weird for an ACTUAL REAL LEFT WING FEMINIST to be unthinkingly repeating TRA propaganda on Mumsnet?

Helleofabore · 03/04/2023 17:31

VanillaSnap · 03/04/2023 16:28

I'm genuinely curious, what is it you found helpful to be informed? I mean after stating the obvious that men are men no matter what they call themselves or identify as, what else is thee left to say?

I am not going to speak for Elsie, however I learn a lot about what campaigns are running, I learn different perspectives on things that are concerning others so I can appreciate their concerns better, I learn about laws and how they effect my life and others.

A lot of very knowledgeable speakers attend these events as well as speakers with unique perspectives that add to my understanding.

Do you never listen to the women speaking on YouTube?

Happylittlechicken · 03/04/2023 17:40

SapphosRock · 03/04/2023 13:19

Fair point.

If I had been shot at a previous event and was planning a new event near a gym I would Tweet 'bring your guns'

It would be obvious I meant 💪🏼

Are you blushing cos you didn’t get the joke?

Happylittlechicken · 03/04/2023 17:44

SapphosRock · 03/04/2023 13:52

So it's okay to joke about violence against women and if you don't get the jokes that's embarrassing.

I thought this was a feminism forum but clearly I am very lost.

The fact it’s Easter Sunday, some people get Easter eggs on Easter Sunday. So she’s saying bring your Easter eggs. How Is that violence against women? Violence against waistlines yes, women no. Maybe she’s asking that people give her Easter eggs to reward her for all her hard work….

buckeejit · 03/04/2023 17:45

I think KJK deserves a bloody big Easter egg 💚

AlisonDonut · 03/04/2023 17:58

Eggs.

It is Easter fucking Sunday and only women have eggs.

Sometimes a joke is just a fucking joke.

Fucking hell. Give it a fucking rest.

ExiledElsie · 03/04/2023 18:02

I learn a lot about what campaigns are running, I learn different perspectives on things that are concerning others so I can appreciate their concerns better, I learn about laws and how they effect my life and others.

Exactly. The speeches are a huge mix of information about how this issue affects women and children in many situations.

Lots of the women who attend are running different organisations working on different aspects. I normally head home with new contacts made, new ideas of actions to take and new understanding of why it's all so important.

The social afterwards is a really important part of the event.

ExiledElsie · 03/04/2023 18:10

Loving the outrage at "bring eggs". Definitely will take some chocolate ones to share.

QueenHippolyta · 03/04/2023 18:50

SapphosRock · 03/04/2023 13:00

Please stop tone policing Posie all the bloody time. Just block her and get on with your own life.

I don't think it is tone policing when KJK is encouraging people to throw eggs at her event. We saw how it escalated in NZ.

That isn't KJK giving women a platform to speak, it is being bloody irresponsible and putting women in danger.

And here we see it Sappho's Rock blaming Kellie-Jay like any TRA.
Andrea Dworkin would have some choice words for you. You only have this Lesbian's contempt.

spannasaurus · 03/04/2023 18:55

I attended yesterday for the first time after watching previous events on you tube. I really enjoyed the event. Not just the speakers but also the chance to talk to other women attending.

Tillytrotter67 · 03/04/2023 19:21

On Twits a few women commented that they'd be bringing PP an easter egg......I know it's a bit complex for some posters to work out that it's Easter (Egg) Sunday!

Floisme · 03/04/2023 20:16

SapphosRock · 03/04/2023 12:48

I really hope the next SFW is just as peaceful but considering KJK Tweeted a picture of herself covered in tomato soup and invited the TRAs to bring eggs then I doubt it somehow.

@AlisonDonut lol no my partner supports trans rights but had nothing to do with the counter protest in Brighton.

That's strange Sappho because I'm sure I remember you replying to me on a previous thread that it hadn't been possible for you to speak at the Brighton SFW event because your partner was one of the protestors. Have I misremembered?

DerekFaker · 05/04/2023 10:17

If Posie had said "Bring your soup", that would be a different matter.

SapphosRock · 05/04/2023 11:03

DerekFaker · 05/04/2023 10:17

If Posie had said "Bring your soup", that would be a different matter.

The videos from NZ show plenty of eggs being thrown too.

MarshaBradyo · 05/04/2023 11:05

SapphosRock · 05/04/2023 11:03

The videos from NZ show plenty of eggs being thrown too.

You really want it not be Easter Eggs

Her audience is more likely to bring the above

If people ‘hate follow’ that’s their issue. Do you do this?

Happylittlechicken · 05/04/2023 11:06

That’s nice @SapphosRock hafe you stopped blushing yet after your egg mix up or Is this you trying to save face?

DerekFaker · 05/04/2023 11:12

SapphosRock · 05/04/2023 11:03

The videos from NZ show plenty of eggs being thrown too.

It's the soup that captured the headlines though, along with that now famous photo of Posie covered in soup.

SapphosRock · 05/04/2023 11:17

I really hope for everyone's sake there are no TRAs on Sunday and just chocolate eggs.

A lovely, calm gathering with Easter Eggs sounds great.

Grammarnut · 05/04/2023 14:29

Flyingticket · 02/04/2023 15:14

Any chance the TRAs are slowly realizing that their public displays of aggression, violence and silencing of women are actually a PR disaster for them?

If they are that may not be a good thing. They will try something less violent but more pointed, suggest that women's sex-segregated spaces are unnecessary, sexist or whatever.

Grammarnut · 05/04/2023 14:32

There is the possibility that TRAs have decided the best way to silence women is to ignore them and keep lobbying in the way they have already learned, so that it becomes impossible to articulate the opposite of what they say. Ignoring people is a powerful way to silence them. Women know this, surely?

BezMills · 06/04/2023 05:26

Yeah nah the ostentatious displays of noisy ASBO virtue will go on, they are simply too much fun. They'll be there, sticking it to the man their mam, on Sunday, I bet

FemaleAndLearning · 06/04/2023 08:34

Great speeches from the women. I like to listen so I get some actions like the Nordic Model Now and surrogacy.
https://nordicmodelnow.org/2023/03/29/most-respondents-to-the-law-commissions-surrogacy-consultation-want-a-total-ban-on-surrogacy-in-the-uk/

Much of my activism is writing letters, writing to MPs etc working with my school and of course peaking women at every chance I get.
I'm coming on Sunday with my terflettes and we are bringing our Easter eggs to eat whilst we listen or chat at the back. I like to 5alk to passer boys and ask them if they would like to know what is going on. That's not always possible when you are kettled in with a baying mob of transterrorists.

Most respondents to the Law Commission’s surrogacy consultation want a TOTAL BAN on surrogacy in the UK | Nordic Model Now!

A short statement on the UK Law Commissions newly-published recommendations for surrogacy law reform and how they were opposed by the majority who responded to the consultation.

https://nordicmodelnow.org/2023/03/29/most-respondents-to-the-law-commissions-surrogacy-consultation-want-a-total-ban-on-surrogacy-in-the-uk

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