Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)

[Helleofabore]

Let’s move the general discussion about the New Zealand ‘Let Women Speak’ tour out of the thread set up to centre the women speaking at the Australian and New Zealand tours.

This was the live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDuy2Kx2HlI?feature=share

The event was over run by violent trans activists. Not only did they use the usual intimidation tactics, but also threw substances at Kellie Jay, the women and the security.

I suspect in the next few weeks as the journalists across the world start writing reflection on all this, and the letters and reactions come in from the electorate, the governments of Australia and NZ and the police leaders are going to come to bitterly regret what they enabled.

What they instigated…

the follow on from this is going to be fascinating

we very clearly see a bunch of men behaving like animals, whipped up into a fury by women asserting the right to express opinions they don't like

I wonder what the UK political class will see?
the NZ political class?
the UK mainstream media and the NZ version?

if they don't see the violence, intolerance and misogyny, how will they explain it?

It's absolutely assault.

Makes you wonder if the SNP will only be the first in a line of tumbling political careers with the whole 'kill women who want equality and say no to being raped' thing.

The reporting of this will be so skewed that many will think that KJK is indeed a fascist and that the rainbow mafia are in the right. I don't think it will make much difference to the situation. I wish that was not the case.

how will they explain it? they’ve blamed a religious dude who seems to protest a lot and is easy for them to push the blame on

These are the same men who stone women to death.
They are the same men who gang rape and sexually assault.
They are the same men who kill women for not wearing hijab.

They are all the same men.

And the women who are silent, who do not condemn, who say she deserves it, are handing them the stones, providing the alibis, washing their bloody clothes.

I hope so. And if they don't, I hope they get forced to.

Because that's another bloody question I would ask our politicians - look at this footage. Do you agree with us that's it's a disgusting display of misogyny? Against one of your citizens.

Yes. It's from the top down.

One can report crime to NZ Police, there's an option to do so anonymously.

https://www.police.govt.nz/use-105#online-report-options

It won't be reported like that here. We have quite strong defamation laws.

I hope so Datun but the DM has labelled her a 'trans critic' this morning so the spin has begun.

They are usually much better on this too.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11901005/UK-trans-critic-Kellie-Jay-Keen-doused-tomato-juice-protestors-Auckland-New-Zealand-rally.html

That's the Australian Daily Mail.

I should imagine Janice Turner is typing all her notes out, as we speak.

And the spectator will have an absolute field day.

These are the same men who stone women to death.
They are the same men who gang rape and sexually assault.
They are the same men who kill women for not wearing hijab.

They are all the same men.

👏👏👏👏

The story is on the UK DM website. They are also carrying this next to it now:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11898429/I-didnt-realise-women-hated-Womens-rights-campaigner-Australia-New-Zealand.html

Yes they are. What’s happened to NZ culture to enable it

It takes two seconds to deconstruct.

Interviewer: "Gosh, what is this 'trans hate'??"

Women: "Well it's women saying we are actually female and need spaces for actually female people who can't use mixed sex spaces, and who want to be homosexual. And that some reciprocation of be kind and inclusion is necessary."

Interviewer: "Er..... how exactly is that hateful?"

Women: "We're not sure, we've been able to discern any logic in the screaming, spitting and death threats."

I hope so. Enough is enough.

Just for info: That Twitter account claiming to get off on women's fear appears to be using images ripped from an article about a Canadian transwoman.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/transgender-euphoria-pov-1.5781023

Which is good, because I had had serious concerns about the child had that Twitter account been in good faith.

Good the term women’s rights campaigner leads

Interesting to see difference to Aus version

'Crimson Starlight' is a fake Twitter account using pictures of a Canadian transwoman and family to stir hatred and violence.

Any trans activists reading this, perhaps you'd like to let the transwoman know. It's shit that someone is using the images like this, but I know that a 'terf' trying to let this person know would not go down well.

Disinformation helps nobody and it's abhorrent to use a child in this way.

I mean in New Zealand. legally.

Agreed.

I hope it also shows people who weren't aware just how captured mainstream media is on this and other subjects. They have no journalistic credibility anymore.