Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)

[Helleofabore]

Let’s move the general discussion about the New Zealand ‘Let Women Speak’ tour out of the thread set up to centre the women speaking at the Australian and New Zealand tours.

This was the live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDuy2Kx2HlI?feature=share

The event was over run by violent trans activists. Not only did they use the usual intimidation tactics, but also threw substances at Kellie Jay, the women and the security.

Sincerely hope everyone is okay and that the woman who was taken to hospital has no lasting damage. Absolutely horrified by yesterday's events.

Can I remind us all, me included, of the benefits of the 'grey-rock' response to those people sowing la zizanie like Landof, above

"pulled his shirt up and started fingering his nipples"

Of course he did, in front of a 10 year old girl and then ran to 'colonise' the women's toilets to drive home the point about his power.

They say they are oppressed but by their actions they show us that they know they are not.

They are using claimed victimhood as a get out of jail free card and our courts are buying it because they are dominated by men who think men's sexual rights trump the human rights of everyone else.

State mandated participation in a man's fetish.

I still feel shocked and upset by the hate shown to women

MNHQ also mentioned on a thread lately that we should report posters who we have concerns about.

Hope your family and friends are safe and well Whaeanui

It is so shocking to read that woman’s first hand account. Surely politicians, police etc must act on this? Everyone has a right to an opinion and to feel safe.

https://twitter.com/allcultsarebad/status/1639393024622096384?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

These are the real stories of the women being attacked !

Have any politicians come out and denounced this protest?

I hope you're friends and family all got home again in one piece. And as for certain posters they can do one today.

💐

I read the Mail coverage, high up and large at present.

Labour women in the report again, trying to defend Starmer I guess in the GE. All it dies is put me more off Labour and Starmer.

I doubt between Rayner in the secret squirrel group years ago and Labour women giving the Mail the children's detail the other day, I will ever vote Labour again, I thought going after her family was despicable.

How are our msm reporting it?

Have the BBC reported on it yet? Can't see it on their website. Another editing decision by omission. Pretend it never happened.

What about the gusrdian?

Has Wellington been cancelled? I cannot find anything official that it has been.

Just the posts showing that the mayor is calling for a huge protest.

Has the mayor now apologised and admitted they are wrong to do so considering the violence that has occurred?

Not seen our msm reporting but some NZ media are reporting that a known Christian protestor who is often in trouble is the one responsible for todays violence and counter protest- this despite nz herald journo actually tweeting their organised counter protest and taking responsibility for stopping her!

Here is a shitty article from the Mail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11901005/amp/UK-trans-critic-Kellie-Jay-Keen-doused-tomato-juice-protestors-Auckland-New-Zealand-rally.html

I have reported you. You are clearly attempting to mock and goad a Maori poster using her own language. Racist, bullying and sickening.

This is what happens when you dehumanise people. When you give them names that literally call them shits. When media inflame the rhetoric.

This is what Mishy, land and all the other TRAs here need to own. This is what your side does. Violence and intimidation of women who dare to speak out. Next time someone says ‘we need to take the heat out of this debate’ ‘both sides have done wrong’ No. No one from a GC point of view has ever done this.

My only hope in this is that people see the truth now. They see the violence, the hatred and authoritarianism. And it only comes from one side.

@Whaeanui
We are with you. They can get to fuck.

For someone who is posting on a feminist thread, your posts are a record of your own hypocrisy.

Own it.

Either start to post with an intention to engage with some kind of contribution that is not merely reflecting derision, or yes, posters will report you for consistently failing to follow the ‘in the spirit’ talk guidelines. That is their freedom to do so.

What I don’t want is to see posters deleted because of troll hunting. But you can interpret my post in anyway you wish. It is a free world and people are completely free to recognise misogynistic posts when they it is in front of them.

Now this poster is making completely disrespectful comments about my whanau I have reported them. Please don’t engage with someone who does this. I speak Te Reo Maori- minus the macrons because that’s not how my grandmother learnt it at Parihaka where she was raised. This person has insulted my mother and grandmother and implied they didn’t raise me properly. What a disgrace of a person. Also bear in mind, even if I didn’t speak it, it was once banned and my grandmothers generation was beaten for speaking it so any Maori with this knowledge would never weaponise their own knowledge of Te Reo to shame other Maori. This person is pakeha. That’s why they used Maori mythology to mock me. That’s why they used our language to insult another poster they knew wouldn’t understand it. You can see Jermaine Clement cry about how his grandmother was beaten for speaking Te Reo and that’s why he didn’t learn it. It’s a painful thing for Maori so bear that in mind when you read this persons disgraceful comments.

Don’t engage with them. They’re not worth it.

I reported Land on the other thread snd just about to report on this thread.

The truth is long gone...