Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)

[Helleofabore]

Let’s move the general discussion about the New Zealand ‘Let Women Speak’ tour out of the thread set up to centre the women speaking at the Australian and New Zealand tours.

This was the live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDuy2Kx2HlI?feature=share

The event was over run by violent trans activists. Not only did they use the usual intimidation tactics, but also threw substances at Kellie Jay, the women and the security.

If Kellie Jay has left, does that then mean because she has gone that the protestors will leave the Wellington event alone.

Because otherwise they really have shown the world that in New Zealand, women cannot speak words that some people disagree with.

Have the politicians and media understood that?

@Lockheart, yes, true ofc that a mob can't get on a plane, but a fellow passenger might be a threat too. Am not meaning to scaremonger; just really want to see her home safe and sound.

100% this. Shameful.

Nasty piece of work that starlight….

he obviously doesn’t subscribe to be kind

This tour has worked miracles in showing to the world, across the world's press, that whatever country you are in, that this political lobby about the 'oh so vulnerable' are in fact women-loathing, misogynist, violent thugs who will do, say and use anything without the faintest grip on morals, respect for others or even basic social skills, if it might make female people subordinate to them.

Bravo Kellie, you've played a blinder. Eyes opening world wide, and oh boy is it an ugly sight. And all you needed to do was present a mic and invite women to speak: those of the anti woman mindset cannot help themselves in ripping off the mask and showing who they are.

However, since she has already been supposedly photographed inside the airport, at this stage I don’t think I would feel safe in her shoes until I got home.

Maybe not even then.

if she's had to come home them how long before our usual "she's conning you it's a money grab" posters turn up to claim she never booked any hotels after this stop, she personally invited the bullies to turn up so she cut her tour short and fleece all us women?

And if they are reading and considering it, a piece of advice...don't fucking bother.

For those asking about Wellington and the other women carrying it on without her, it’s been made clear they’ll protest loudly if she’s there or not- they also protested Meghan Murphy but that event was held in parliament buildings so was somewhat protected. This was an outdoor event so that’s the safety issue. I know some very seasoned and strong kiwi women who have been to many protests, they’re very scared right now and none want to go to the Wellington event. Peoples lives are being ruined, being doxxed has real life consequences.

He got sexually aroused by her assault? And people wonder why we don't want men in our spaces?.

I hope she has come home. It's a miracle yesterday that no women were killed. I've just watched the video of her being escorted out by amazing security and they would have killed her if they'd been able. It's very clear. They were an angry mob, baying for a fight.

New Zealand is a terrifying country for women and children.

I fear that women in NZ will only get rights back when white males who say they are males realise that white males who say they are not males are actually more powerful than them.

absolutely. Spot on comment there @nilsmousehammer . I dip in and out on the comments and controversies over Kellie but her courage for engaging on this tour is to be applauded. She knew that this was the likely outcome and would present a threat to her personally but wanted this moment to prove to the world that women's voices are being silenced

The safety of these women is the priority. We are all right here for them and for you.

And to those gloating over her having to cut it short and come home, this is not the win you think it is.

The very fact that women weren't allowed to speak, and that after being assaulted the safest option was to come home, not just for her safety but other women's, well that just proves that women are being silenced.

Stay or come home it's a win win situation for getting across to the masses that women's voices are being silenced.

Trans widows in New Zealand must feel so isolated today, having been very clearly shown where the power in their country lies.

Thanks for your perspective.

This is a shocking wake up I think. And it highlights that even with the best intentions that political agendas can become totalitarian and authoritarian. And this will have shone the light on this.

I never agreed with Adern’s edict that people don’t speak the name of terrorists. I don’t agree with Victoria’s decision to ban the swatsika and now the Nazi salute. I have felt it doesn’t achieve what these decisions are intended to achieve.

When people show the world who they are, believe them.

This is just terrifying. Thank you to the women who bravely attended the event. Really hope all are safe and well now.

I've reported the racist poster on this thread.

Now is the time for the UK government to show how much they value women's rights.

Posie is a British citizen and I fully expect the British consulate in NZ or someone in the UK govt here to comment on what has happened.

Remember this is the country that brought us Laurel Hubbard, the born male who stole medals from Samoan women, one of whom had a life of abuse and had to really struggle just to compete. Laurel on the other hand is a multi millionaires child, their father Dick, was a known homophone. He used his power and status during the campaign for gay rights and wrote to politicians to urge them to vote against.

It's sickening Tinsel, absolutely sickening. They must feel completely powerless.

Amplify this if you can.

Here we have a male openly proud of the fact that abusing women gives him sexual gratification.

You can see it in the footage of hyped up angry men terrorising a tiny group of women, throwing barriers around, squaring up and screaming at women. They are high on their own testosterone, high on violence, turned on by their own woman hate. They are proud of it.

You can see it in the crowing abusive posts of the man who organised the mob, jeering at women being 'caged'.

Show the world who these men are and what this movement stands for.

Men's domination.

@TinselAngel yes, for the trans widows 💐they must feel alone and unable to speak at all.