Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)

[Helleofabore]

Let’s move the general discussion about the New Zealand ‘Let Women Speak’ tour out of the thread set up to centre the women speaking at the Australian and New Zealand tours.

This was the live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDuy2Kx2HlI?feature=share

The event was over run by violent trans activists. Not only did they use the usual intimidation tactics, but also threw substances at Kellie Jay, the women and the security.

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As domestic violence and the police conduct of lack of at this event has been a focus, this is a good article about the increase in domestic violence and reduction in cases going to court. There’s a lot here on the nz police, change in laws and guidance and approach to offenders. NZ now calls prisoners, ‘men in our care’. The story at the start of this resonates, I called the police as a child about family violence and they said pretty much the same thing, we can’t see any evidence, just try not to aggravate each other and stay out of each others way, merry Christmas!

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300397629/more-victims-are-reporting-family-violence-but-abusers-arent-facing-court-noone-knows-why

What’s this due got on his arms

Arm guards. But not for guarding his arms, I’d guess. Put those in someone’s face they will do some damage and you can still have a go at claiming ‘self defence’….”oh, I was just putting my forearms up to protect myself”.

FYI Posie will be on TalkTV with this woman tomorrow

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1639950833042300929?cxt=HHwWgoC9yYCmo8ItAAAA

@Whaeanui thanks, looking forward to seeing that.

Cartoon from Rod Emmerson. It's perfect, but I think he doesn't realise why.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/rod-emmersons-cartoons-week-of-march-20-26/25UZXEBLM5G7LBYVX2QLVIVNLU/

He doesn't see it, does he. Someone on twitter recommended he do a new one, only this time with a male fist.

Cartoon from Rod Emmerson. It's perfect, but I think he doesn't realise why.

He didn't realise, but I think he might now...he's turned the comments to his tweet off because he didn't get the backslapping from woman hating thugs he was expecting, and also blocked people pointing out that his cartoon makes our point so beautifully, it looks like it was made by a 'terf'.

@ArabellaScott

I watch that footage and while it's horrific and shocking, it's really just not surprising to me at all.

I feel the same way, the violence is now so predictable that we would be surprised if there was none, but we retain our capacity to be shocked by it.

I struggle to see how the rabid commentators and politicians will be able to justify, or excuse hulking brutes, with or without moto cross body armour bashing little old ladies.

I suppose the scumbags will simply ignore it.

FYI Posie will be on TalkTV with this woman tomorrow

Brilliant.

Maybe I've misjudged him and he knew exactly what he was doing.

I wonder if anyone here knows the law. Can these videos be spliced together (fully acknowledging the source ) and kept on YouTube before they are deleted by their owners?

It needs to be distributed far and wide that cartoon. That guy has no idea how apt it really was.

His but it is ‘georgina beyer’s’ arm !, just increased the relevance. As did the fact that KJK isn’t known for wearing dresses but trouser suits shows that he is oblivious to the significance that he has also resorted to misogynistic gender stereotyping as well!

And he isn’t listening.

To all those posters who stated the most ridiculous notion that women meeting would have been allowed, it is ‘just KJK’ that is the issue, how do you explain this weekend ?

The Lesbian Project - protested and one entrance to venue blocked.

Screening of AHF documentary in Manchester - a documentary made by socialist feminists - protested.

An unadvertised group of women meeting at Speaker’s Corner without Kellie Jay Keen - protested by activists with amplification again when amplification is against the by-laws and the history and tradition of Speaker’s Corner.

All this weekend. Diverse groups of women meeting to discuss their needs. No Kellie Jay Keen attendance. All protested with the intention of drowning out women’s voices.

When are posters who are blaming one woman for these protestor’s behaviour going to admit it is NOT a Kellie Jay issue? The intention is clear- this is about silencing women and only about forcing their opinions on women.

How bizarre that this past week posters who have never once been able to support their own argument outside of using misinformation and emotional manipulation have repeatedly resorted to calling regular posters ‘TRA-like’. How fucking hypocritical!

Their own pattern of posting reflects the accusations chanted by extremists who are aiming to silence women.

Had to sign in to agree with you Helle - should just repost that every time those fuckers start talking shit

Yes exactly. KJK gets "they're only protesting because she (insert whatever reason here)."
If she's not there - women still can't speak.

I had to use a vpn to read this so have attached screenshots: NZ tourism board has been flooded with complaints. GOOD.

I've started another thread about brands to boycott and included the email addresses of the PM and minister for trade. They need to know the world sees what happened and is disgusted and appalled.

I'm afraid if they think showing screaming mobs battering pensioners 'burnishes' NZ's reputation then they're fucked beyond all hope.

Did I post on this thread or another one, Georgina Beyer spoke about this flash of tights before her death and said women should be listened to and not immediately called trans phobes. In an article. I posted it on one of these threads, so he is using her name for a messsge she publicly didn’t agree with

Here is Georgina Beyer and what they actually thought:

‘Georgina Beyer, the world's first openly transsexual mayor and MP, said both sides needed to display a willingness to consider the debate intelligently and urged trans activists to be less adversarial."They need to bring the public along with them .. if women are feeling their gender is under siege then they have a right to express their concerns – to label them transphobic is premature," Beyer said.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/106652172/battle-lines-drawn-between-feminists-and-trans-activists-over-sex-self-identification

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Yes.

Listen to their concerns.

Then tell them to get to fuck and do what they're told or else.

And then label them transphobic and beat them up.

So much more progressive......

Time Long Past.

I watched and saw the commentator looking so happy that the trans activists had stopped women speaking, had shouted them down, made rough music with saucepans - and the commentator was a woman! How could she not see what was going on and that it was the trans activists who were intolerant and violent?

Apologies.

I was mistaken. It was the 24th March WPUK Manchester conference that was protested. The protestors for the AHF documentary went to the wrong place it seems.