Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)

[Helleofabore]

Let’s move the general discussion about the New Zealand ‘Let Women Speak’ tour out of the thread set up to centre the women speaking at the Australian and New Zealand tours.

This was the live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDuy2Kx2HlI?feature=share

The event was over run by violent trans activists. Not only did they use the usual intimidation tactics, but also threw substances at Kellie Jay, the women and the security.

The never ending batshit....

inclusion doesn't just mean TQ men, it involves women too.

women requiring equality of consideration, provision and treatment are not 'hating' anyone - unless you're insanely male supremacist.

women are afraid of males. Rationally. TQ male people are allowed to be afraid for example of assault in men's spaces, why do you think they are unwilling to believe that a female human may have equal reason? And that it's necessary to share their fears and expect care and listening, but when a female does it, she's irrational and wrong?

Words mean something. Reality exists. Nazis were generally more into the male supremacism, homophobia, racism and dehumanising. When they existed. Which was nearly 7 decades back. Dressed up wanabe twats are..... nothing more than dressed up wanabe twats really.

I am disgusted at anybody lolling at male violence against women, at a mob attacking elderly women, chucking barriers, punching women, screaming, spitting, throwing liquids. Disgusted. Disgusted. Inclusion my fat arse. Forced inclusion is rape culture. The mob attacking a small group of women are the ones preaching hate, using fear as a tool to silence women, so intolerant of any other viewpoint than their own bullshit rainbow queer-theory that they must shut dissent down at any cost, they must erase, chase, cage, equate women to shit, spread lies, attack, smear, denigrate and dehumanise. It's all as clear as day. It's male supremacy, male domination, male violence. That's all it is. Lies, fear and abuse.

Oh Lord, Mishy's not a feminist 😁. They just say that to wind women up.

this is what the spectator thinks mishy is.

The misogynistic streak in trans extremism is undeniable now. Watch enraged men kicking down metal barriers so that they might get closer to the witch Posie and tell me this isn’t sexism masquerading as radicalism.

Behold the use of megaphones and expletive-laden chants and physical menace to silence a woman and tell me this isn’t a sexist, censorious crusade against women’s freedom of speech.

Censorship begets bigotry. It begets violence itself.

Posie has exposed them, yet again, and for that she deserves our thanks. This time round, the witches might just win.

We will.

And Now the whole world can see what this ideology is. The only thing the spectator got wrong is they're not hiding behind anything or masquerading as anything. They are upfront, in-your-face violent thugs.

@MishyJDI i have some questions. These “Nazis” that turned up. Antifa we’re there. You know, people who really hate Nazis. So why weren’t antifa attacking the Nazis? Why did antifa let the Nazis March straight through? Why were antifa more interested in preventing women speaking than dealing with these Nazis?

Some of the women who were at Melbourne have written about their experiences. Published here by @Glinner

How they smeared Posie in Melbourne
"To mark yesterday’s disgraceful violence towards women in New Zealand, I’ll be posting a few pieces today by people who have attended past events. The first is from a woman who attended one of Posie’s Australian stops. My thanks to her for this account."

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/how-they-smeared-posie-in-melbourne

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I might need a definition of ‘chasing off’

has anyone been told to get off the thread cos thats bang out of order in that case

there are 3 similar threads running at the same time so i may have missed something

I am not seeing 'chasing' anyone anywhere. I see posters responding, with actual points, to posts that are openly provocative. Disagreement is a part of debate. And I vehemently disagree that women speaking out for equality have somehow managed to turn normally lovely people magically into batshit misogynist thugs in a mob attack on women. Or that women wanting equality has anything to do with the Third Reich. Who were vigorously anti equality, and women's rights, and children's rights, and homosexuality, and other things such as the women were trying to speak about.

I don’t get why pp are turning a blind eye to this violence

(They were however heavily into book burning, controlling language, controlling and intimidating the press, training up children in right think, punishing those caught guilty of speaking anything but the ordered language, repressing homosexuals and women, medical experimentation, and othering and dehumanising large groups of people who it was fine to behave in absolutely insane ways to on the grounds of 'politics' and 'the greater good' and 'they made us do it'. That was all very much their bag.)

The video of the two young men pulling down the barricades and the one in the front grinning with great glee is such a metaphor of what is happening to the Women's Country. Invasion, colonisaton, and new laws about our places, words, awards, sports etc.

That video is amazing, the sound of angry male voices too, no boundaries must exist.

This is horrific.

I remember the first Women's March - no violence worldwide despite the massive scale (only one man was arrested in St.Paul for verbal harassment). What has happened in such a short amount of time? Deranged people and aggressive men attacking and threatening older women and children.

It's a complete breakdown of civil society.

UK men are disgusted, so take heart.

FF from Triggernometry, Lawrence Fox, the Tatania McGrath chap, Zuby and many others are Tweeting.

Women have fought so well, we can't take a punch from thousands of males, the police are what they are and many men are not impressed.

Men lifting shirts rubbing nipples in front of a 10 year old girl in public.

Society is lost. Politicians and leadership in the public/private sector failed us along with some media, looking at you so called impartial BBC.

Charles can't visit France, about a million turning out day after day there and it is not that warm yet, they had their straw that broke the camels back moment over pensions, I think it will be truth/lies for many nations.

The world is not in a good place

This is one of the women who was part of the mob, friends with the herald columnist who organised it, she’s a kindness warrior and American

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ask-me-anything-cassie-roma-talks-to-paula-bennett-about-moving-home-and-authenticity-in-business/3KZKB3UOSRCT5EJXJJ3YZD7DVQ/

Sorry, I just need to get this off my chest. I did not sleep well last night, I've been out all day and I've got to go out again quite soon and I'll be out until late. I've not had a chance to read much of this or the other threads about NZ so forgive me if I'm repeating what other posters have put.

I have zero fucking time time for the so-called purity feminists who have smeared KJK with nazi or far right. Demands to denounce them, no not like that. Evidence? Insinuation or fuck all, stuff that's been debunked countless times. I've more respect for the tras that come on these boards, even the ones who take a dump and then disappear. These 'purity' feminists made the ammunition, loaded the weapon then left it lying around for anyone to use.

I hope they're ashamed but I bet they aren't. Don't bother scolding me, your good opinion means less to me than shit on my shoes. If you had any self awareness you'd think about what you've been doing.

For fucks sake we're supposed to be on the same side.

Rant over....and out.

Your priority 'side' is yourself as a woman, their priority 'side' is not themselves, they prioritise an ideology - their political party, it is the God, they worship their God their political party first before themselves and all others, it is their opium.

a kindness warrior

Why does that phrase sound so chilling?

Ministry of Love, right?

A kindness warrior?!?!

what da fuk is one of those

im not reading the article, i have a low boredom threshold

This is on The Heralds YouTube, they’ve opened the comments which they don’t normally and it’s pretty glorious

The way “down under” TRAs has smeared KJK’s character and run riot at her events has been very shocking, but not surprising. Brings to mind Tasmanian activist Jessica Hoyle who went to court to be able to hold female only events for the lesbian community in 2021 and lost.

As for the failed men who takes occasions such as this to live out their “femaleness “ by - let me check my notes - punching and abusing elderly women… it’s all honestly so pathetic and transparent. Life taught me early sad and angry men aren’t afraid of punching down, in fact they quite enjoy it, shame on society for giving them a socially sanctioned avenue to do so.

Fuck! @Whaeanui Every time i see this from a different angle it gets more horrifying. Don't bloody blame her coming home after that. Trying to get her out and grown assed men trying to go for her, someone throwing what was hopefully water at her.

Anyone who says she deserved, caused this, should have denounced people that she actually did denounce, or in any way tries to lay the blame on KJK can get to fuck.