Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)

[Helleofabore]

Let’s move the general discussion about the New Zealand ‘Let Women Speak’ tour out of the thread set up to centre the women speaking at the Australian and New Zealand tours.

This was the live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDuy2Kx2HlI?feature=share

The event was over run by violent trans activists. Not only did they use the usual intimidation tactics, but also threw substances at Kellie Jay, the women and the security.

Now I’m crying because I can’t get Utrogestan even privately, how do I identify out of needing this?! What a shit weekend to be a woman

The TRAs are getting more emboldened and more violent so it's likely that they will continue to escalate. And that means relying on our police forces. Makes for a grim outlook.

It is a conditional rejection if that is the right phrase. She rejects it on the surface because whatever reason, but she wants everyone to know that she has a ‘legitimate’ reason for holding her views on Kellie Jay. That is what I think she is saying.

I suspect the message is coming across that a particular group of feminists have been noted for their past words and their present words, or lack thereof.

Datun. From what I can tell she deleted her original tweet and retweeted this:

twitter.com/peskywoman/status/1639586344199438336?s=46&t=hbWtj1ftrAz4gmkIOtSRsA

I hope the woman who was knocked over by the is OK.

From the above article

Davidson attended today's rally to support trans and non-binary human rights and was injured by the motorcyclist after Parker left Albert Park under a police escort.A large number of motorcyclists were in the area to support another rally held by Brian Tamaki.

Then from this article
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/posie-parker-protest-brian-tamaki-leads-anti-trans-protest-in-auckland-cbd/

As British activist Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull sought shelter at Auckland Central Police Station after her Let Women Speak event was derailed by a counter-protest, Destiny Church leader Brian Tamaki has begun leading another protest just hundreds of metres away.

Brian arrived with his friends on motorcycles.

There is nothing to say he was there supporting KJK.

He was there however to lead a 'anti trans ' protest (god knows what that actually translates as for this group).

Remember KJK wasnt there to lead an anti trans protest. She was there to try and facilitate women speaking.

JK Rowling never puts a foot wrong.

Isn’t the ‘legitimate point’ referring to KJK courting/ not discouraging the Far Right? So the basis of the cartoon is legitimate but she wishes Bragg would have something to say about the unacceptable violence.

Who do Auckland pride think they're kidding??

Do these bellends seriously not understand that turning off comments is the kiss of death to what you just wrote?

I will never understand the stupidity of these people.

Got it, thanks. She's agreeing with what he's saying, but complaining about his tone.

It's like toddlers who don't want to hear something and put their fingers in their ears and sing loudly.

The pair of them keep their family put of the public square and will have psychopaths after them for life over this issue.

I am still raging at left-wing feminists partaking in exposing a family and getting information out, that lead to an escalation like this, they know how deranged these people are.

JKR would understand that, as TRA went to her home putting her family at risk too for all online.

Just want to add my support for the women in Australia and New Zealand, being called shit by their politicians and silenced by a crazy angry violent mob.

Not a good look for the left real Feminists when they on the one hand says: The right for any women to organise themselves, and then go: Except you, you are not doing it right.

Fuck off! This is where it has gotten you. Trans-mob confidently asssulting women.

You have no idea about anything about me or my political activism. And though I have never ever claimed to be some great woman's rights activist I could point you to the applications to parliament, various institutions and other orgs I've authored on behalf of the gender critical movement as well as the articles I have written to bring attention to the subject - but that wouldn't be good enough, would it?

So believe what you
want - believe I haven't done that, believe I'm a TRA, believe I hate women, I'm jealous, lazy, whatever because I can't simply be a person who's simply concerned and opposing fascism and it's potential enablement can I?

And sorry, I will never ever shut up when it comes to opposing Nazis and Nazi enablement. I have been opposing the far right for years, online and off, whatever causes it tries to piggyback on to - and am certainly not going to stop now.

I understand this issue is an emotive one but please understand how the scum operates.

Got it, thanks. She's agreeing with what he's saying, but complaining about his tone.

Essentially. It's still throwing KJK under the bus.

Sarah Pillimore says tweeted and deleted by RS, not retweeted and deleted. I interpret the response to BB was because he appears to be celebrating Kiwis having the measure of Posie Parker. She certainly doesn't appear to be disagreeing with his assertion that KJK is "far right".

This was a reply to JKR tweet

It really is quite ironic that people complain about Posie being blunt, unapologetic, gobby etc. like there's something wrong with her approach.

When is only through her rallies that everyone else has come to accept TRAs as fucking violent, irredeemably misogynistic, and full of porn addled men using their hormonally altered bodies to intimidate women and girls.

A lot of people thought this extreme ideology was a small part of it. It isn't. It's practically all of it.

Anyone, any woman I should say, who has squared up to it has found that out very, very quickly.

From Gallus Meg, to Posie Parker.

we see it on here all the time. Wheedling men who just want to pee, who turn into violent thugs the minute you tell them to fuck off.

They will not be able to bury this.

Thank you Labour Women's Declaration

twitter.com/LabWomenDec/status/1639578050823069697?s=20

Excellent tweets

Three days ago I wondered if this would spark an international incident.

Unless the Oz and NZ politicians come out and say they unequivocally do not endorse the violence and of course women, whether visitors or not are welcome to speak, our government should absolutely have something to say about one of their citizens being publicly assaulted.

This should be the subject of cartoons.

This male violence that we’re often meant to accept as ‘she’

Where are those mainstream political cartoons

I'm posting a link to Pesky Woman KPSS twitter page because she is retweeting all the support KJK is receiving from well known names from across the political spectrum.

twitter.com/peskywoman

The footage from this has the potential to royally screw their tourism industry what woman would decide to visit the country for a holiday! its currently right up there as a destination not to visit as a woman.

Thank you for that FOJN.

I have been absolutely fuming since this first kicked off. But it's that which has brought me to tears.

I agree. What women in their right mind would want to go there??

Quite apart from the whole trans issue, they fucking hate women.