WOMEN SPEAKING - Let Women Speak - Australia & NZ tour

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Despite many pleas, the original thread was hijacked by people (mostly from the UK) who displayed ZERO interest in watching, appreciating and discussing the ACTUAL SPEECHES:

Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

IMHO This was profoundly disrespectful to the OP, @ZombieMumEB, who said she hoped to attend some of the events, to Mumsnetters (particularly Australians and New Zealanders) who wanted to discuss the speeches and to the brave, articulate and impassioned women who gave the speeches.

This thread is to discuss the WOMEN SPEAKING.

Please direct complaints about KJK to one of the perennial "We hate Posie" threads.

If you are a UK socfem with a genuine interest in discussing the socfem approach to re-educating the Labour Party, ie. rather than complaining about KJK, start a new thread. This one is about and for the women in Australia and New Zealand who spoke at the #LetWomenSpeak events

Rather than engage with derailments, can we please agree to report them or ignore them?

Australian live streams

Sydney - Sat 11th

Brisbane - Sun 12th

Perth - Tues 14th (see video for Chapters)
Intro (KJK)
Women in Australia (KJK)
Women Speak (KJK)
Sophia Mormont
The Truth
Grandmother
Trans Activist (KJK)
Trans Rights (KJK)
Change Rooms
Im Australia (KJK + Speaker)
Kelly Jane
Maggie (several Speakers)

Adelaide - Thurs 16th

Melbourne - Sat 18th

Melbourne Post Event Chat
(Moira Deering MP, KJK, Katherine Deves, Angie Jones)

Happy Mothers Day! - Sun 19th (KJK)

New Zealand Mon 20th (KJK update)
(Zip-fiddling misrepresented as "White Supremacy" signal)

Hobart - Tues 21st

Canberra Tomorrow - Wed 22nd (KJK update)

Canberra - Thurs 23rd

New Zealand Here I Come (KJK update)

NZ TBC

Auckland - Sat 25th
Wellington Sun 26th

NZ Free Speech Union - 23 March
Justice Gendall has rejected the application to overrule the decision by Immigration New Zealand to allow entry for @/ThePosieParker into the country.
This is the only right result for a nation that values tolerance, the ability to debate, and free speech.
https://twitter.com/NZFreeSpeech/status/1639045241360781312

ThePosieParker - 24 March
Free speech is not an easy principle to uphold, but it is worth protecting. Without it democracy dies.
https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1639078293990252547

I am not disagreeing with you that they hate women, please read what I said.

Also, not disagreeing that they wouldn't have turned up, again, see what I said.

What I am saying is

1. If you don't denounce Nazis loudly and clearly and specifically tell them they are not welcome it will mobilise more people. Not doing this angers me, too, to be honest, but the violence they (TRAs) have displayed is of course disgusting.

2. If they did turn up and she had denounced properly, many more people would be disgusted by this.

3. Regarding the whole "women are not responsible for what men do/ 1st rule of misogyny" thing - no women are not responsible for what men do but sorry, everyone is responsible for denouncing Nazis properly - as in telling them they are not welcome and you don't need their support. If you can't bring yourself to do that, I certainly can't support you and I will suspect you are either courting controversy, or don't think they (Nazi scum) are really all that bad.

Could we have a separate thread for infighting?

Well said. They won't see it though. They act like TRAs do in many ways.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300839091/antitrans-activist-posie-parker-wont-confirm-if-wellington-event-to-go-ahead

Incredible that the Mayor of Wellington wants even more protests.

This is the person who threw the tomato sauce over KJK at the beginning:

https://www.instagram.com/elianarubashkyn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D

https://twitter.com/KnownHeretic/status/1639480339914694659

“This is the woman who assaulted This is the woman who assaulted This is the woman who assaulted @ThePosieParker

Her friends are bragging about it. They always tell on themselves with violence! Solidarity sisters in NZ. The world is watching.”

#LetWomenSpeakAuckland

The police have been advised - let see if they act.

Thank you, @SinnerBoy I was thoroughly confused. I thought KJK dealt with the accusations with exactly the weight they deserved. They were ridiculous and didn't deserve anyone's time or attention.

Of course, I'm guessing now, had she repeated herself or tried to make things crystal clear she would now be accused of protesting too much.

Thank you to all pps who linked to twitter letting us know how everyone was doing. I also read that at least two women were punched with one at hospital. I hope they are both home safe now.

Are you seriously suggestion KJK wanted to be assaulted? How about the 70 year old woman with a black eye did she want it too?

I think you need to look up the phrase, "victim blaming"

And I have been hearing from NZ people I know through completely unrelated things to this, rugby fans, guys who have no clue about any of this at all and you know what? They see right through the media lies. One just said, why is everyone celebrating violence against this woman?

I also heard that someone doxxed one of the women in the Maori group on YT, with Rex, they doxxed her and she’s having to leave her home.

@LesNot

I'm just sick to the back teeth of that particular poster posting the same rubbish, over and over on so many threads! I've already called them out and they don't deign to reply, for some reason.

They don't seem to like interaction, just preaching.

@Whaeanui

Thank you for another informative post. Like many (I suspect) British posters, I know next to nothing about your people's travails over land rights.

It's horrible to read about your compadre being blinded and others being spat on, abused and doxxed.

This is Ani O’Brien who was going to speak, lots of footage of what happened from different angles is on her Twitter here. They literally surrounded Posie and her team, it’s horrendous and they’re celebrating!

don’t forget the guy who organised the violent mob works for NZ Herald- a right wing media outlet

https://mobile.twitter.com/aniobrien

And here's malignant troll India Willoughby's take on things

And the Co-leader of the Green Party of New Zealand after a lovely day out in the park.
https://twitter.com/KatrinaBiggs2/status/1639451224494968832?s=20
She's also the one who was reported as having been knocked over by a motorcyclist on her way out of the park and is claiming it was a deliberate attack bŷ a KJK supporter

The Green Party there used to be amazing, my friend was an MP for them when their focus was environmental. Now their focus is trans issues and anything to stay relevant. They are ineffective and pointless. This is what they do now

Nick McKim flying his misogynistic colours high, celebrating violence against women as ‘a beautiful thing’.

https://twitter.com/nickmckim/status/1639401522495909888?s=46

An account of what it was like by a woman who wentntheir to,speak and ended up beseiged in that rotunda
https://aboldwoman.substack.com/p/trans-activists-make-women-terrified

Just like the Greens here

@Minirrriot
Also, not disagreeing that they wouldn't have turned up, again, see what I said.

What I am saying is
If you don't denounce Nazis loudly and clearly and specifically tell them they are not welcome it will mobilise more people. Not doing this angers me, too, to be honest, but the violence they (TRAs) have displayed is of course disgusting.

I suppose you also think that if a woman is out walking at night alone, she needs to loudly and clearly and specifically tell men that she shouldn't be raped?

Or perhaps you think a women needs to lock herself up and not venture out at night, alone?

You are thinking like a man. Women are speaking up - you need to actually listen to women, not to your inner voice of misogyny.

Yes. if I had contributed to the “Far Right” smears and knew that I held some responsibility for this dreadful outcome and women being terrorised, I’d be trying to get ahead of it too, by pretending that I had only been warning of this very outcome. I’d likely disappear when challenged rigorously on that disingenuous claim too. No surprises here.

I am a woman in New Zealand and I’m perfectly happy for @gwrachod to speak. Her argument is cogent, her comments are germane, and unlike you she is actually contributing to the discussion.

Kindly take your own advice.

Bang on!

I am a woman

Could've fooled me.