WOMEN SPEAKING - Let Women Speak - Australia & NZ tour

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Despite many pleas, the original thread was hijacked by people (mostly from the UK) who displayed ZERO interest in watching, appreciating and discussing the ACTUAL SPEECHES:

Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

IMHO This was profoundly disrespectful to the OP, @ZombieMumEB, who said she hoped to attend some of the events, to Mumsnetters (particularly Australians and New Zealanders) who wanted to discuss the speeches and to the brave, articulate and impassioned women who gave the speeches.

This thread is to discuss the WOMEN SPEAKING.

Please direct complaints about KJK to one of the perennial "We hate Posie" threads.

If you are a UK socfem with a genuine interest in discussing the socfem approach to re-educating the Labour Party, ie. rather than complaining about KJK, start a new thread. This one is about and for the women in Australia and New Zealand who spoke at the #LetWomenSpeak events

Rather than engage with derailments, can we please agree to report them or ignore them?

Australian live streams

Sydney - Sat 11th

Brisbane - Sun 12th

Perth - Tues 14th (see video for Chapters)
Intro (KJK)
Women in Australia (KJK)
Women Speak (KJK)
Sophia Mormont
The Truth
Grandmother
Trans Activist (KJK)
Trans Rights (KJK)
Change Rooms
Im Australia (KJK + Speaker)
Kelly Jane
Maggie (several Speakers)

Adelaide - Thurs 16th

Melbourne - Sat 18th

Melbourne Post Event Chat
(Moira Deering MP, KJK, Katherine Deves, Angie Jones)

Happy Mothers Day! - Sun 19th (KJK)

New Zealand Mon 20th (KJK update)
(Zip-fiddling misrepresented as "White Supremacy" signal)

Hobart - Tues 21st

Canberra Tomorrow - Wed 22nd (KJK update)

Canberra - Thurs 23rd

New Zealand Here I Come (KJK update)

NZ TBC

Auckland - Sat 25th
Wellington Sun 26th

NZ Free Speech Union - 23 March
Justice Gendall has rejected the application to overrule the decision by Immigration New Zealand to allow entry for @/ThePosieParker into the country.
This is the only right result for a nation that values tolerance, the ability to debate, and free speech.
https://twitter.com/NZFreeSpeech/status/1639045241360781312

ThePosieParker - 24 March
Free speech is not an easy principle to uphold, but it is worth protecting. Without it democracy dies.
https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1639078293990252547

If she had specifically denounced the Nazi goons, this very likely would not have happened.

First rule of misogyny: "Women are responsible for what men do."

There are about a dozen more. Do you want to go for a full house?

https://twitter.com/Araweel0Returns/status/1639432479298961410

New angle of the violence at today's #LetWomenSpeak event in NZ. KJK and security are barely able to escape the crushing mob of deranged trans activists. Remember, this is the "right side of history".

Exactly. And there have already been violent TRA protests at WPUK meetings. Remember this from the Labour Party conference a few years ago?

https://www.womenarehuman.com/police-do-nothing-as-rowdy-transgender-activists-terrorize-attendees-scream-kick-windows-at-womans-place-uk-meeting/

Did that happen because TRAs think WPUK are Nazis? Or because TRAs are a bunch of violent misogynist thugs?

The BeKind mob that are being shown in these video clips are the fascists. These are fascists that are being handwaved away by some very disturbing people on this thread as “her fault” and “deserved”.

Do you really think that if KJK had told this lot to fuck off, and go home, and she denounced them and all they stood for, that they wouldn’t have turned up any to throw projectiles, and fists, and hate?

Get to fuck - it gives them a raging right-on to be there screaming at women and threatening violence and feel safe doing so, because you and your ilk, and the politicians, and the police at best stand by, at worse, join in.

Own your own.

https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1639440176119271425

For wanting to make space for women to speak I genuinely feared for my life today. My activism is simple, we #LetWomenSpeak. Why does that make anyone so angry? We showed the world what happens to women when they try to speak. No one can pretend they don’t see the salivating misogyny. #LetWomenSpeakAuckland

The clips on twitter are terrifying. It seems the police decided not to turn up until after multiple women phoned the emergency number.

If she had specifically denounced the Nazi goons, this very likely would not have happened

Why are you acting like this is the first time these MRA thugs have turned up at an event to bully and assault women? They've been doing it for years.

Some of their previous excuses for assaulting women are 'woman wanted to watch a film, so I spat on her' and 'woman attended a meeting, so I punched her in the head'.

They turn up to intimidate and assault women for the most ridiculous reasons because they HATE women, Minirrriot. It's as simple as that.

Oh do get over yourself!!!!

Many people in NZ would rather she not have come here, the rest couldn't care less about her. I've never heard anyone in real life even mention her - just because she is some sort of hero in the eyes of the MN feminist crowd it doesn't mean the rest of the world agrees.

The clips on twitter are terrifying. It seems the police decided not to turn up until after multiple women phoned the emergency number.

Wow. There were credible threats of violence days before.

And there is no domestic violence in the UK, really?????

Many people in NZ would rather she not have come here, the rest couldn't care less about her.

So? Does that mean she can be left to the mercy of a raging mob of misogynistic violent thugs? She came to NZ because NZ women asked her to.

And yet here you are posting about her. Sounds like she's taking up a lot of rent free space in your head for someone so insignificant.

I doubt they are saying much of anything. Because despite the best efforts of Field Marshall Parker to instigate a culture war, Australian and New Zealand are largely tolerant societies that believe everybody deserves a ‘fair suck of the sav’.

One of the better Op Eds that I have read on the matter is Posie Parker wins the beautiful freedom to make an ugly argument

I don't think advocating for women's sex-based rights is "ugly" and I think anyone who does think that is a misogynist.

This is how she's seen in NZ.

Umm I thought destroying paedos was a good thing…. I guess you feel differently- yikes!

And I mean figuratively destroying, not actual violence. I leave that kinda action to the BeKind people. Like you, I guess?

Who was the freaky interviewer?

Outside of TRA bubbles in Auckland and Wellington, the average kiwi thinks the rainbow crowd are lunatics. No one cares what your sexuality is, the Topp Twins are nations treasures ffs, so this whole narrative that "trans lives are in danger" is total bs. NZ has never been a safe place for women, and today has proved that. It's a very angry macho culture in NZ.

Ha ha. The Trojan horse cartoon. TRA's have regularly stolen gender critical ideas and twisted them. We were calling them a cult years ago then they started saying we were. Ditto Trojan horse bringing in the MRAs. DARVO in action.

I keep having to delete what i want to say as I surely would get banned right now.

But anyone who comes on here and tries for one second to defend how the TRAs behaved or that she deserved it can quite frankly go fuck themselves.

I just want her to be safe. I don't give a flying fuck what the protesters want.

I’m just in awe of KJK who just keeps going and going bigger and louder every time. Thank you for letting women speak. What a shero.

Of course around the world they will make up slurs that she’s a nazi or whatever bullshit about her- it’s because she’s holding up a mirror to the misogyny in society that so many people very strongly don’t want to see. Because they like misogyny, they don’t see women as fully people, so the status quo suits them just fine.

I hope, also, that some of you now understand that the lefty women (who know a think or two about campaigning, fascists and antifa) have not been criticising KJK because we're jealous, but because we feared exactly this would happen.

These things or two you know about campaigning, fascists and antifa would then mean that you knew exactly what you were doing when you started the ugly slurs and lies that Kellie-Jay ever had any kind of “alignment” with far right groups.

When the lies about the heritage foundation died down you started on the HoO lies.
When that was about to die down you made sure to reignite them.

Handing men’s rights activists a handy weapon to use against all GC women. When men doing Nazi salutes turned up at an event, oddly supported by police, you cranked the accusations up another 100 notches.

and here we now are. Auckland this evening. And you have the nerve to claim you were warning about this, that you feared this would happen? You have been doing your stupid best to create this situation, undoubtedly without predicting how brutal it would get. Because you don’t actually know anything about “fascists and antifa”. You also don’t understand that ince you unleash something, you cannot control what an angry mob will do with it. You cannot put that genie back in the bottle.

You set this chain of events in motion. I suspect that is the reason so many AGCL people are out tonight, victim blaming left right and centre.