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They’re not Terfs they are ‘Terds’ Senator Nick McKim announces in Tasmanian Parliament

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 22/03/2023 09:01

I can’t believe the misogyny and hostility towards women.

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Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 20:28

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 20:16

So any evidence yet to support your other claim that KJK shares the 'side' with the National Socialist Network?
The Nazis do share the same viewpoint though against trans people.
Are you seriously saying that they don't, and that they're fine and dandy with trans women in female toilets, that they're fine with rights for trans people?
How can you say that with presumably a straight face?

And we come back again to the viewpoint that YOU share with the National Socialist Network.

YOU share their viewpoint that children need to be protected from paedophiles.

You know who shares the opinion that humans cannot change sex? The majority of the world's population. Including the majority of the medical professionals and biologists.

Are they Nazis' too?

And what about the % of people in the UK who don't believe that males should have access to female toilets? I am happy to post that link again although, I know that people have posted it for you before.

Are the majority of people in the UK Nazis too?

Do you even grasp the fail in logic you are repeating here?

And again, here is that other fail in understanding. What rights do you think that constitute valid human rights do you think that Kellie Jay Keen thinks that trans people should not have?

You have not provided any detail on that. Have you ever?

I mean, that should be very easy to find. What rights that are human rights do you think Kellie Jay Keen thinks that trans people should not have?

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 20:31

Righthandcider · 22/03/2023 16:11

She’s being put on a pedestal and that makes me deeply uncomfortable.

This is an interesting interpretation.

I wouldn't have described being compared to excrement, lied about, and trashed by the mainstream media in Australia as being put on a pedestal.

I think the poster meant that in the eyes of some, she can do no wrong, and won't hear any criticism, and a kind of hero worship.
For some. Obviously not all.

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 20:31

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 20:16

So any evidence yet to support your other claim that KJK shares the 'side' with the National Socialist Network?
The Nazis do share the same viewpoint though against trans people.
Are you seriously saying that they don't, and that they're fine and dandy with trans women in female toilets, that they're fine with rights for trans people?
How can you say that with presumably a straight face?

While you are here, please also post the details as to what is the viewpoint against trans people that the National Socialist Network has?

And what is the viewpoint 'against' trans people that Kellie Jay Keen has?

Because you were asked before to provide evidence of this, and you simply avoided it.

Datun · 22/03/2023 20:32

There is not a tiny morsel of my soul that thinks now is the time to walk away meekly.

KJK

For all the abject tossers trying to stop her by pretending she's a 'nazi'.

And to women everywhere:

Not only is her backbone intact, it's just acquired a whole new layer of steel.

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 20:32

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 20:31

I think the poster meant that in the eyes of some, she can do no wrong, and won't hear any criticism, and a kind of hero worship.
For some. Obviously not all.

Can you now point out which posters on this thread have stated that Kellie Jay Keen can do no wrong?

You have again posted dishonestly. But, show the proof.

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 20:34

By the way, in 2019 Kellie Jay Keen posted a statement that contained this:

"White supremacy and the racism that fuels it has no place in a civilised society, I abhor those views and the people that hold them."

Tell us again how she is a nazi or a nazi sympathiser.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/03/2023 20:34

I'm still hoping @suggestionsplease1 and @CremeEggQueen can explain how chaps are an oppressed minority

and how not letting them shit in the women's loos oppresses them

I did buy a 5 pack of creme eggs earlier today by the way, and can neither confirm nor deny how may have been eaten

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 20:37

"how not letting them shit in the women's loos oppresses them"

I expect it will be along the same lines of how more egregious it was that a woman complained about a naked male with a semi-erect penis who got into a spa bath with a nine year old girl while in her robe in the reception area of the spa. More egregious than the male who exposed himself.

This is the same thinking processes going on. Deflection about what really happened to focus on personally attacking the woman speaking.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/03/2023 20:39

when you have to pretend that you believe some men are women, life gets awfully complicated doesn't it?

FourTeaFallOut · 22/03/2023 20:39

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 20:34

By the way, in 2019 Kellie Jay Keen posted a statement that contained this:

"White supremacy and the racism that fuels it has no place in a civilised society, I abhor those views and the people that hold them."

Tell us again how she is a nazi or a nazi sympathiser.

Well, she thinks the sky is blue and they think the sky is blue...I mean, if you would just stop being difficult about this for a moment, you would connect the dots and then, boom, evidence.

SinnerBoy · 22/03/2023 20:52

Jujuj · Today 13:42

^If they came in holding a sign that said ‘Free Puppies & Kittens’ I would be like
‘oh fuck there are nazis here, maybe I need to rethink who I’m hanging out with’.^

Why the constant bullshit about KJK & SFW "hanging out with Nazis"? They weren't "hanging out" with them, as you know perfectly well; the Nazis crashed their event and SFW had no control over it.

They didn't stand with them, invite them or do anything to discourage them. KJK has condemned them and expressed bewilderment that they exist in 2023.

You have no honest position, just lies.

Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2023 20:59

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/03/2023 20:20

women wanting to use the bogs without a man present isn't 'harm to a minority group'

men aren't a minority group you silly sausage!

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Not as silly as this sausage

Boiledbeetle · 22/03/2023 21:06

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/03/2023 20:34

I'm still hoping @suggestionsplease1 and @CremeEggQueen can explain how chaps are an oppressed minority

and how not letting them shit in the women's loos oppresses them

I did buy a 5 pack of creme eggs earlier today by the way, and can neither confirm nor deny how may have been eaten

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Datun · 22/03/2023 21:18

You have no honest position, just lies.

She put the wind up 'em.

PatatiPatatras · 22/03/2023 21:23

So multiple groups of men are speaking over a woman... with labelling, mansplaining and reinterpretation a plenty... sounds like a Tuesday at any of our workplaces.

Just let women speak. Who knows, you might even learn something.

Abhannmor · 22/03/2023 21:30

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:35

Same with the litter pick scenario.
The RSPA isn't comparable.
Unless they were also not just about the animals but protesting against the Jews/Muslim people at the same time?!

They used to hand out flyers in Brick Lane complaining about Halal meat ffs.

Do jog on.

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 23:47

Do jog on.
No.
I've as much a right to air my opinion as everyone else.
Tough shit if you dont like it.

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 23:48

Abhannmor · 22/03/2023 21:30

They used to hand out flyers in Brick Lane complaining about Halal meat ffs.

Do jog on.

Who used to hand out flyers complaining, sorry?
Your post isn't clear who you're referring to there

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 23:53

Just let women speak. Who knows, you might even learn something
Women are speaking, yes.
That's good.
That doesn't mean that all women have to agree with you though!
I'm always going to want to call out Nazis, or feel uncomfortable about hero worship behaviour.
Regardless of whether you're a woman too or not!

Helleofabore · 23/03/2023 00:04

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 23:47

Do jog on.
No.
I've as much a right to air my opinion as everyone else.
Tough shit if you dont like it.

And you are welcome to.

But thanks for confirming this has all been your opinion. No evidence at all.

Hepwo · 23/03/2023 00:25

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PorcelinaV · 23/03/2023 00:49

Jujuj · 22/03/2023 11:48

Explain how it’s irrational?

Because it's a guilt by association fallacy. If bad people agree with you on something it doesn't mean much.

Or if you wanted to argue that KJK is going too far with her rhetoric, then you should make some other argument for that. A group of Nazis gatecrashing an event isn't strong evidence for that conclusion. Anyway, that would still say nothing about core issues like single sex spaces and whether TWAW.

Helleofabore · 23/03/2023 00:53

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CremeEggQueen · 23/03/2023 01:10

Have you absolutely no respect for women at all? Hero worship?
What are you even trying to say here?
You do realise you're talking to other women, right?
If so, you do realise that some may be capable of hero worship?
On account of being separate and individual people in our own right?!

Boiledbeetle · 23/03/2023 01:39
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