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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Humza Yousaf says TransWomen are Women Except When They're At It

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ArabellaScott · 15/03/2023 20:59

wingsoverscotland.com/the-human-torpedo/#more-136220

Should prove interesting if he wins the leadership contest and tries to pursue the GRR through court.

'Isla Bryson should not have been in a women's prison ... Isla Bryson is a rapist who is completely at it; I don't think they're a genuine transwoman, I think they're trying to play the system'.

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OneMorePlant · 15/03/2023 21:06

There used to be an easy way to know who was faking it. It was called "transexual" and doctors were very gatekeepy about who went through that medical pathway.

In gender lalaland Bryson is a transwoman. No ifs. No buts.

I really hope every single woman is smart enough to never vote for Humza. I'm so over politicians treating us like 3rd rate citizens.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/03/2023 21:06

is he really that stupid?? Why are they all such fuckwits?

(too fed up to be erudite about it 😆)

JacquelinePot · 15/03/2023 21:07

Acceptance without exception except when there is an exception

JacquelinePot · 15/03/2023 21:08

Good luck codifying that in law 😆

GCAcademic · 15/03/2023 21:10

Who decides who is “at it”? Does HY have some way of seeing into souls like that nutcase LibDem woman?

Pixiedust1234 · 15/03/2023 21:11

I think he's completely right about his statement and I'm very impressed he said it.

Now...how to work out the ones who are "at it" 🤔

Chillbrains · 15/03/2023 21:12

I don’t understand how I’m supposed to tell the difference between the people who’re “at it” and the people who’re “just trying to live their lives” when I’m assessing risk in intimate care scenarios.

what insight can humza offer as the person who was able to say for once and for all that Isla (who I imagine would not appreciate humza mishandling her with “they” pronouns) is “at it”. Although I note he stopped short of saying she’s a man.

i am genuinely perplexed though - it’s actually a hard path to walk between being a bleeding heart liberal and the ice cold pragmatist that says keep you cock out of my mum’s intimate care arrangements. I don’t want to stop being polite to individuals (well, I’m make an exception for Useless) but I also want to know who I can trust if the benchmark for “being female” is pink clothes, nail polish and an unchecked self declaration.

IcakethereforeIam · 15/03/2023 21:28

Perhaps there's a Humdar (similar to gaydar) for distinguishing the 'genuinely trans' from those that are 'at it'.

ArabellaScott · 15/03/2023 21:50

I actually don't even know if I agree that Isla Bryson is 'at it'. Obviously, Isla Bryson is a man, and a horrible, violent rapist. But that doesn't mean he isn't a transwoman. He might be 'at it', but he equally might have gender dysphoria or even just feel himself to be more comfortable wearing pink leggings and a blonde wig. I'm with the trans activists on that point, and I don't really see why his crime should have any bearing on what prison he goes to.

Males in male prisons, that's it.

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ArabellaScott · 15/03/2023 21:50

Chillbrains exactly, what are the criteria Humza is using, here?

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WallaceinAnderland · 15/03/2023 22:00

Well quite. Which is why women want to exclude ALL men from female single sex spaces, not just the ones who say they are women. Because, as we all know, many men are at it.

Melroses · 15/03/2023 22:06

What even is "at it" ?

ArabellaScott · 15/03/2023 22:11

'pretending' or 'putting it on'.

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guinnessguzzler · 15/03/2023 22:19

It's easy enough to tell. You just let everyone in to whichever space they choose, wait for some people to commit several serious crimes against women, then you say how bad they are and therefore they can't possibly be trans. It's either that or bring in the world cup octopus. Clearly no other way round it.

ArabellaScott · 15/03/2023 22:25
Excuse Me What GIF by Bounce

world cup octopus

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KindergartenKop · 15/03/2023 22:27

Prescient Paul was the world cup octopus. Sadly he's no longer with us. Rip.

littlbrowndog · 15/03/2023 22:29

So apart from octopus how can we tell the chancers from the non chancers ?

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/03/2023 22:30

Some men are men who are pretending to be women. I’m so confused…

Melroses · 15/03/2023 22:51

littlbrowndog · 15/03/2023 22:29

So apart from octopus how can we tell the chancers from the non chancers ?

The real ones wouldn't do something like that. That's how you know.

🤔

😬

Whooyou · 15/03/2023 23:01

We need Crocodile Dundee

Whooyou · 15/03/2023 23:05

"That's a guy dressed up as a Sheila"

Humza Yousaf says TransWomen are Women Except When They're At It
TheBiologyStupid · 15/03/2023 23:35

From Arabella's link:

The central mantras of self-ID are not “ACCEPTANCE WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS” or “PEOPLE ARE MOSTLY WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE, SUBJECT TO VERIFICATION BY HUMZA YOUSAF”. There are no ifs or buts with self-ID.

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If Bryson or anyone else SAYS they’re a woman, they ARE one, and disputing that is – under the Hate Crime Bill forced into law by none other than Humza Yousaf – a criminal offence.

(It’s pretty clear that it would be capable of meeting the tests in the Bill because the SNP’s own definition of “transphobia” makes it clear that Yousaf’s words amount to bigotry, just as Nicola Sturgeon’s did when she repeatedly flapped under questioning on the subject almost as badly as Yousaf did last night.

Indeed!

Xant · 15/03/2023 23:38

GCAcademic · 15/03/2023 21:10

Who decides who is “at it”? Does HY have some way of seeing into souls like that nutcase LibDem woman?

This.

The logical conclusion of trans-ideology is intellectual dictatorship: one person (or a tiny group) telling everyone else what is real and what to think.

SerenaVanDerWoodsenHumphrey · 15/03/2023 23:46

Perhaps they can reverse-engineer Patrick Harvie as a triage device? He may not know what a "woman" is, but he can certainly spot a "non-man"!!

LizzieSiddal · 16/03/2023 00:02

How very transphobic of him!

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