Humza Yousaf says TransWomen are Women Except When They're At It

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Should prove interesting if he wins the leadership contest and tries to pursue the GRR through court.

'Isla Bryson should not have been in a women's prison ... Isla Bryson is a rapist who is completely at it; I don't think they're a genuine transwoman, I think they're trying to play the system'.

Hilariously, HY today met a group of Ukrainian refugees and asked them where all the men were 🤦‍♀️- Link

Reactions on Twitter are divided between:

1. how can he not know the answer, and
2. how does he know they aren’t men

Best me to it, MissLucy!

Sorry, but I’m sure you can understand my eagerness to hang on Humza’s every word.

how does he know they aren’t men

Ooh, ouch.

Oof! My embarrassment genes came out in cringe mode for him.

Sorry. I have to disagree that someone being 'at it' means that they are 'doing something you disapprove of'. In Scottish parlance it means that they are conning you or someone else - they are pretending something for nefarious purposes. Eg. 'Wee Fergus wisnae ill at all. He was at it to get a day aff school' .

Why are we arguing about the meaning of "at it"? The context seems clear. The bottom line is that the putative First Minister doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

BloodyHellKen · Today 09:28

It's almost as if Humza is trying to have his cake and eat it 🤔

I hope he chokes on it. He has no excuse, he knows exactly what is going on and that he has played a major part in it.

He cannot plausibly claim not to have known that men like Pink Leggings would do exactly what he did and like many others, abuse the wide eyed acceptance of many that they are Real Women ™

Many people told him and his ridiculous colleagues that exactly these sorts of incidents, Dolatowski trying to rape girls in toilets, masturbators in changing rooms, etc etc etc as a pretext to access female only spaces.

He shouted them down, said it would never happen, called them ignorant bigots. He said none of his constituents had ever broached the subject with him.

You may believe him, if you do, I'm an African Prince and would like to borrow your bank account and I'll pay you €1 million.

He, Sturgeon and the rest of the squalid gang have blood on their hands, which could have been easily avoided, but they chose ideology over reality, so as to present themselves as progressive.

They deserve nothing but our contempt.

Exactly.

Humza is legislating on the basis of "at it".

Best he tells us all precisely what "at it" means in law?

Can he do that? He seems to have pronounced on the basis that he can.

Yup

I agree that in Scots parlance "at it" means engaging in deception. Humza should be made to say, in so many words, that he thinks Isla Bryson lied to gain access to vulnerable women. Because that's exactly the thing that Humza and any number of SNP and Green MSPs said categorically never happens, and that anyone saying it did was hateful and bigoted against trans people.

After which he should be asked whether it takes a rape conviction to demonstrate that someone is at it. Was Bryson lying about his gender identity prior to conviction? When he enrolled in the beauty course which gave him access to young women? Thing is, most rapes don't result in a conviction, so is it at least theoretically possible, dear Humza, that some rapists who haven't been convicted might also be at it? In which case, those pesky women who keep asking for some safeguarding/gatekeeping measures might, just might, have a point.

The world awaits Humza.

You have announced a new identity.

At it.

The world is hanging on your every word now. Don't keep us waiting.

LGBQATIT+?!

@TheBiologyStupid I think you only need the last three letters. TIT sums him up quite nicely.

😂

I know it's late, but these letters have got so many and so ridiculously stupid that It took me a while to notice the extras.

And yeah @LizzieSiddal called it right TIT will do!

And you do not want to search TIT in the gif option.

Nice cute feathered birds?....Nope...

Isla Bryson should not have been in a women's prison ... Isla Bryson is a rapist who is completely at it; I don't think they're a genuine transwoman, I think they're trying to play the system.

It is so, so simple. Adam Graham (let's drop this Isla Bryson crap) raped two women. Here are the only two options.

• Adam Graham is pretending to be a transwoman. We can't tell, can we, due to the wonders of self-ID. But he raped two women, and shouldn't be in a women's prison.
• Adam Graham is really a transwoman. This is irrelevant. The relevant fact is that he raped two women and so he shouldn't be in a women's prison.

As any idiot knows (except it seems, Humza), self-ID is highly risky, since noone can tell the difference between a "real" and a "pretend" transwoman. And even if we could, all the evidence points to transwomen reflecting the spectrum of male behaviours, including rape, sexual aggression, violent threats, fetishes. Transwomen do not follow female pattern behaviours, where these are extremely rare.

Though of course, the feelings and wishes of the transwoman/pretend transwoman rapist are more important than the safety of the female prisoners.

"Barbie Kardashian" got his conviction today and gets to spend his time in the women's prison in Ireland. 14 previous convictions, threatened to rape and murder his mother, ripped a women's eyelids off,... still put in a women's prison.

How many more of these need to happen? It's so sickening

@Whooyou 😂😂😂

I'd really like Humza to explain how raping invalidates transness.

Does all crime? Violent assault? Or just rape? At the point of conviction, is that when it's all proven false?

And why?

They are all trans. TW just means 1) biologically male 2) has labelled themselves as trans. That's it. That's all. The issue is part 1, not part 2. And there is no degree of surgery or cosmetic/medicated treatment that ever changes part 1.

All this wangling is to try, increasingly desperately, to justify the absolute horror show of entitling male offenders including male sex offenders to the company of non consenting females, who are reduced to male therapy aids instead of equal personhood with the male.

Face it and own it you bloody coward. Or admit it is unjustifiable in a supposedly modern world by a man who would like the electorate to think he's fit to run a bloody country.

I think some of the debate of “at it” as a phrase is relevant. It’s obviously not very high brow but it’s a also quite a benign phrase as some one up thread said “wee Fergus is at it” kidding on he’s not well enough to go to school.

Harold Shipman wasn’t at it prescribing those old ladies the wrong doses of medication, Fred west wasn’t at it.

It’s a joking phrase used for people who are so plainly having you on, said with a wry smile.

rapists in women’s prisons - well they are just at it! That’s how serious this is to the SNP

Sorry Dues, haven't rtft so not sure who you're quoting but seems a good time to point out for that pp:

The distinction they're making is between men pretending to be women and men pretending to be men pretending to be women.

When you realise that, it becomes very clear.

I agree but trivialising the faking of being trans may backfire, because ‘at it’ suggests how easy it is to do - which is obvious to everyone on this board, but not necessarily to the general public.

His crime is not the only reason he should be in a male prison.

Simply the fact that he is male is enough to affect women prisoners, how they feel about being incarcerated with a male, the risks to their physical and mental health.

I think we need to be really clear on this. A male criminal who only ever comitted tax fraud, who is mild mannered and pleasant, can still cause alarm, fear, and distress to women who are locked up with him.

A male criminal who only ever comitted tax fraud, who is mild mannered and pleasant, can still cause alarm, fear, and distress to women who are locked up with him.

To add to that, the reason this lovely, mild mannered fraudster asks to be put into the women's prison is ostensibly to avoid his own fear, alarm and distress at being incarcerated with males.

If his feelings about being incarcerated with males matter, so do those of women. If it's just about 'feelings', then women have equal right to have their feelings respected.

If it's also about safety, then males will always present a greater risk to females. Greater physical strength, not to mention male pattern violence and behaviours.