Humza Yousaf says TransWomen are Women Except When They're At It

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Should prove interesting if he wins the leadership contest and tries to pursue the GRR through court.

'Isla Bryson should not have been in a women's prison ... Isla Bryson is a rapist who is completely at it; I don't think they're a genuine transwoman, I think they're trying to play the system'.

It isn't that easy, Humza. Isla Bryson may absolutely be trans. As things stand, we have tp take that claim as the starting point for how we act. And if a trans person IS a criminal, is a politically unacceptable danger, is politically inconvenient for you? That person still has the same rights as everyone else of the same demographic. I actually DO begin to wonder if Humza is, in the correct sense of the word, transphobic.

I think this is crucial: the bizarre assumption that a genuinely trans person cannot be a nasty wicked individual capable of doing horrific things.

As I don't think any right-minded person would disagree that TPAP - trans people are people - and that people in general are capable of doing appalling acts, why do we suddenly decide that, upon being found guilty of a very serious crime, that somehow stops a trans person from being considered a person? Surely THAT is a very transphobic thing to believe, isn't it?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11860311/Humza-Yousaf-says-trans-double-rapist-Isla-Bryson-trying-play-system.html

'Humza Yousaf says transgender double rapist Isla Bryson is 'not a genuine trans woman' and 'is trying to play the system''

But Humza now has a perfect opportunity to fix this loophole in the system that he is creating.

The sheer fucking stupidity of these people never ceases to amaze me. The whole GRR bill is premised on the idea that no one would ever pretend to be trans for nefarious purposes, and that people are who they say they are. Now Yousaf casually claims that Isla Bryson was pretending. So does he understand that, on that basis, the entire premise of the GRR bill completely falls apart?

How did we end up with politicians who are so thick?

democratonline.net/2023/02/28/gender-humza-yousaf-says-isla-bryson-is-at-it/

'Mr Yousaf told viewers: “I can’t change the law. The law which has been the law for many many years, allows Isla Bryson to self-identify as a woman if they wish.”

Lucy Hunter Blackburn, a prominent critic and policy analyst said she had to go away and “unboggle” her mind after hearing this statement.

Rhona Hotchkiss, the former governor of Cornton Vale in Stirling where Bryson was first sent has several question for the leadership hopeful. She said: “So Humza Yousaf says ‘Isla Bryson’ is ‘at it’? 1. Your Govt said repeatedly that would never happen 2. How do you know? 3. How do women ever know about any of them? 4. Tell Stonewall 5. Why is it okay for you to say that, but when women say it they’re ‘transphobic’?”

“Sorry? ‘He’s at it?’” said a baffled former Labour MSP Johann Lamont. She added: “Was he sleeping during Cabinet and SP debates? Did he miss the bit when we were assured no predator ever had to pretend? Did he miss the contempt for those with concerns about self id? Did he not hear his colleagues explain their rebellion? Seriously?”'

So you are a transwoman unless you are at it.

how does that work ?

'Isla Bryson should not have been in a women's prison ... Isla Bryson is a rapist who is completely at it; I don't think they're a genuine transwoman, I think they're trying to play the system'

I assume that's a direct quote from Humza so why isn't he saying:

'Isla Bryson should not have been in a women's prison ... Isla Bryson is a rapist who is completely at it; I don't think HE'S a genuine transwoman, I think HE'S trying to play the system'

It's almost as if Humza is trying to have his cake and eat it 🤔

I had to talk with my 18 yo the other day, she's partially captured but is sceptical at times. We were talking about women spaces. I was saying how there are some trans women who really aren't trans women. She looked a bit shocked. I had to tell her how there will always be abusers/rapists/pedos who will play the long game and use whatever means they can to access their victims. Even if it means growing their hair long and wearing a dress, to access spaces for women or children.
This is why no males of any kind should access women spaces. She was in agreement by the end and none of her friends will use the gender neutral loos at school, she said no one like to go in there at all. Boys or girls.

I agree with @BloodyHellKen

Humza is hedging his bets here.

Isla Bryson isn't a genuine transwoman but he Humza still doesn't quite have the balls to correctly sex a rapist.

This is very telling.

I live very close to this. People are a mixture of worried-to-angry spectrum (mostly female) to dismissive / well 'what did you expect, he's a known weirdo'' shrugs (many male). I don't want to go into specifics as it's an ongoing case, but the child abductor had been increasingly 'above the radar'.

The child who was 'recovered' will, I expect, take a long time to 'recover'.

V entertaining thread, thank you all - and of course thanks to Humza, the gift that keeps on giving 😁

I don't get how if a male child plays with dolls, and that's considered girl gender behaviour, and cause to trans to female, then why when a trans woman rapes two women is that not considered man gender bahaviour, and cause to trans the trans woman back to being a man? It's application of the same logic.

Humza's "at it" is perfect. The vague wishy washy language that you want in a lawmaker who hasn't thought out his legislation, wilfully ignores real evidence of the harm his legislation is going to cause, but is determined to push it through anyway because to admit he was wrong would make him look bad.

As others have pointed out Humza's removal of Isla Bryson's trans shield, while at the same time still using evasive pronouns, results in Humza demonstrating that he believes Bryson is both trans and not trans at the same time. Schrödinger's politician existing in multiple states simultaneously, seemingly fleetingly resolved at the moment of observance, but unlike the cat isn't resolved at all and still maintains both states. Asking if Bryson is male or female results in no answer but instead causes the spontaneous creation from the vacuum of nothingness of a third particle, a rapist. A double rapist no less, maintaining the principal of duality. This is more the field of quantum physics, especially when you consider all the spin on the third particle. Real science is being done here that puts the LHC to shame, unfortunately it's not much use to the voters.

The problem that Humza Yousaf doesn’t seem to realise is that the ‘it’ that Graham is ‘at’, when he’s says he’s ‘at it’, is self-I’d.

You demonstrate perfectly how there is no logic.

And if you spend any time on the relationship board, reading around there and the well known sources: when you have someone telling you things that contradict each other and they apparently can't understand that they're contradicting themselves?

It is because all of what they say serves their emotional/central purpose and agenda. So it does not matter that the facts don't add up, there's no coherency or logic, and it's factually obviously bullshit: it's serving their purpose.

Which is apparently to waffle madly while ensuring that equality of care for females is never permitted to interfere with the freedoms of males. Even when the male in question is quite obviously an abusive criminal who has destroyed women's lives for his sexual jollies.

This man is a male supremacist. And a bloody coward about it, because he cannot even own what he is trying so hard to enable.

Look, if I take the post of first minister, about two thirds of the SNP are going to be in detention until about 2025....

Look, if I take the post of first minister, about two thirds of the SNP are going to be in detention until about 2025....

Too late: I already identify as the FM (even though I don't live in Scotland) - and anybody who says otherwise is a nasty bigot and a disgusting webuiltophobe.

I don't get how if a male child plays with dolls, and that's considered girl gender behaviour, and cause to trans to female, then why when a trans woman rapes two women is that not considered man gender bahaviour, and cause to trans the trans woman back to being a man? It's application of the same logic.

Perfect explanation, using their logic soundly back to them.

What’s funny about this is my womanhood would never be in doubt in this way. Even if I did the most horrible crimes, no one would ever say “hmm she’s not really a woman, I think she’s just pretending”. Whereas transwomen are either genuine women or just pretenders. And what that means is not so deep down Humza’s concept of a real woman tracks most peoples concept : he thinks women are female. Female women can never be “at it” - that doesn’t make any sense. But male women can be just pretending.

ironically despite being a massive TRA he’s just said something that’s actually quite transphobic, because it raises the spectre of transwomen being frauds and pretenders whereas women are the genuine article no matter how they look and behave. This is the entire reason the modern trans movement wants to get rid of concepts such as passing privilege, the medical model of transition because according to them transwomen just ARE authentically women simply by self declaration. There is no other criteria for womanhood.

Its so annoying he parrots this shite and expects us to go along with it when he’s revealed he’s not even a true believer and probably doesn’t even understand the basis for self identification in the first place !

I think Humza’s got himself in the bind people do when they have a faulty starting assumption

his starting assumption is ‘can’t say no to trans people’

so when some men say they’d like to go to women’s prisons instead of men’s, instead of saying ‘nice try chum, I’ll bet you would’ he has to say yes

then when it inevitably goes to shit he has to find reasons for why it was ok to say yes

At this point I'm convinced that the SNP are trolling us or they imagine we are all incredibly stupid.

How can anyone game a system which requires no verification other that their say so?

I wish the SNP would just fuck off they are a hazard to the mental health of Scottish people, no government should be allowed to gas light the electorate like this.

I had a similar discussion with my 17 year old daughter. It genuinely hadn't crossed her mind that some men would abuse the TWAW stance purely to access single sex spaces. Once she understood the risks she was against any Trans-women going in the ladies loo/changing room 'because I don't want to see a man in there with me mummy'.

It blew her mind when I told her about trans-women competing against girls/women in sport 😂Oh to be young and innocent.

'At it' sounds like something said in On the Buses. 'Cwoor, they bin at it on those back seats again, Jack!' Has Hamza started identifying as Reg Varney?

I would love to know what Labour think of the SNP leadership election.

On one hand Humza is TWAW (unless they are 'at it' obviously 😂) which means it is the same old centre left SNP with a layer of TRA's - i.e. a bit like Labour but with added Independence.

On the other hand if either Ash or Kate win, the SNP will not be entertaining the TRA's but will still be a centre left inde party that will now have a lot more appeal to all those who won't vote Labour because of their TWAW.

Labour need Scottish votes to win a GE. If Humza wins Labour can't compete because they haven't been able to in the last 2 GE's and if either Kate or Ash wins they can't compete either because it will be TWAW vs TWANW.

Maybe this is why recently Labour have started to try and appear like they do care about womens votes after all?

We can only hope it will cause Labour to reconsider their position. Ever the optimist, I am 😂

I want to see the legal definition for “at it”.

I keep hearing Noel Coward at the back of my mind: 'Alice is At It Again'.....