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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Most stupid centring of men on national women's day

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MollochTheCorrupter · 08/03/2023 19:27

What's the most stupid centring of men you've seen on national women's day. This particularly annoyed me as it is literally centering men with both the messaging and the framing of the male individual.

I haven't got the guts to tell the person that posted it on social media they're an idiot, so will have to content myself with venting here.

It's particularly depressing because she's a bloody teacher and supposedly an intelligent person.

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Abhannmor · 09/03/2023 11:53

Musky is looking for The Article. The One Article they always share.

It was in Scientific American....about nematode worms or something. Although perhaps they deleted it ?

teawamutu · 09/03/2023 14:10

The one with the very pretty graphic with all the loopy lines that Emma Hilton comprehensively demonstrated was bollox?

Or the blog that offered no actual science at all, even the pretend kind?

OneMorePlant · 09/03/2023 15:28

I'm just here waiting with everyone to see that science that Musky has got about what "living as a woman" is.

SidewaysOtter · 09/03/2023 15:42

I was promised science. And yet here I am, at the end of the thread, and @ElonsMusky hasn't come up with so much as an abstract <huffs>

Or maybe this is like when Stonewall said the "science hadn't caught up yet" and what they really meant was "There's not a shred of evidence to support our nonsensical ramblings"?

SidewaysOtter · 09/03/2023 15:42

@WinterTrees Grin Grin

ISpyCobraKai · 09/03/2023 15:46

drhf · 08/03/2023 22:21

I prefer the line that “Behind every great woman is another great woman”.

And I wore my t-shirt saying that today.

Where did you get it from please, I'd love one.
I wore my Adult human female one.

GotABeatForYouMama · 09/03/2023 16:00

I've RTFT but still no sign of "the science"....I.Want.The.Science and I'm not leaving until I get it. <stamps feet and pouts>

Forfrigz · 09/03/2023 16:21

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BellaAmorosa · 09/03/2023 16:32

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What has that crass comment got to do with the subject of the thread?

Florissant · 09/03/2023 16:57

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 09/03/2023 10:14

Jeremy Corbyn celebrating two drag queens at the Stonewall riots-for International Women’s Day.

I always throw salt over my shoulder and spit on the ground when someone mentions Jeremy Corbyn.

lieselotte · 09/03/2023 16:59

One of my ex colleagues and LinkedIn contacts (a woman) posted something about IWD being lovely and all, but behind every successful woman stood a supportive grandfather, brother, husband etc and they deserved recognition.

I wanted to comment: "Emma Pattison" but restrained myself.

Florissant · 09/03/2023 17:02

Any updates, Musky?

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 09/03/2023 17:09

Corbyn's ignorant tweet about Marsha B was irksome, but Jess Philips including Ghey on the end of Karen Ingala Smith's Counting Dead Women really pissed me off.

Igmum · 09/03/2023 17:37

Sorry I'm late guys (out of breath), did I miss The Science? (Looks round hopefully)

teawamutu · 09/03/2023 17:43

Yes, Jess Phillips' self-serving fuck you to the CDW list was the belated runaway winner. I despise that woman.

EwwSprouts · 09/03/2023 17:45

DH works for a foreign international company and the top of the top HR woman hosted a Zoom for IWD. The keynote speaker who had a stellar career and broke glass ceilings...... revealed themself to be a TW. Though according to DH a reveal was not necessary.

LostMyUserName · 09/03/2023 17:53

I’ve had enough of being told how to woman and who is a woman.

I am fucking raging and one of the reasons I am so bloody angry is because of my hormones at this stage of my menstrual cycle. Here’s some fucking science for you fucking pathetic apologists:

“Women are led by a symphony of oestrogen, testosterone and progesterone in amounts that vary across an average 28-day menstrual cycle.

Whereas men governed primarily by testosterone, released at regular intervals and doses throughout the day.”

With thanks to Dr Mindy Pelz for the above.

Before anyone tells me who the fuck I am, read the above until it enters your brain and stays there. Alternatively, shut the fuck up!

ElonsMusky · 09/03/2023 23:46

myveryownelectrickitten · 08/03/2023 21:11

We don’t have “grades” here, “hun”. But I’ve got four postgrad degrees; care to enlighten me on this new science you’re apparently so keen to tell us about….? Or is this “science” just stuff you’ve read on Tumblr?

not everyone on here is in the UK "hun"

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2023 01:04

Looking forward to the SCIENCE! @ElonsMusky bring it

myveryownelectrickitten · 10/03/2023 01:10

ElonsMusky · 09/03/2023 23:46

not everyone on here is in the UK "hun"

Oh dear 😂 Yes, we’re very much aware of that, because we frequently get North American posters trying to make some kind of argument at us that doesn’t apply to the U.K., or misunderstands U.K. law, or similar.

No science yet though? I’m looking forward to it. We have a roster of professional scientists and academics on call here to answer your questions.

(Do you know, it’s quite often the case that some inexperienced young teenagers from Tumblr and Twitter pitch up here to lecture us, assuming, in rather sexist terms, that the posters on “Mumsnet” are some kind of Betty Friedan types who are all stuck at home in the suburbs, on the Valium with the mindless drudgery of their days. But, it turns out that middle aged women these days can do things like have doctorates in cell biology, be professors, and head up biotech companies and all sorts of exciting things like that! Where they do Science, and everything! Even the kind of actual Science that you don’t just find on the feeds of deluded people on Twitter!)

Ramblingnamechanger · 10/03/2023 07:07

In Spain there was a banner saying that “sex work is work” proudly held by men of various identities

Baldieheid · 10/03/2023 09:16

Elon! You're back, my darling!

Science.

Do it to me.

My bosom is heaving in anticipation of THE SCIENCE.

Don't let me down, hun. I'm all het up and thirsty for knowledge doncha know.

GotABeatForYouMama · 10/03/2023 09:54

Can you do "the science" bit now @ElonsMusky, only I'm going to be away for the weekend so won't get a chance to see the amazing revelations before MNHQ zap it. Thanks "hun".

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2023 09:57

Why would they zap the SCIENCE? Is it just too important and groundbreaking to be disseminated?

littlbrowndog · 10/03/2023 10:06

The science. 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

oh celebrating too soon