Caba Baba Rave - take your baby to watch nearly naked men in fetish gear

[Clymene]

Journalist Dominique Samuels has posted video of one of their events: https://twitter.com/dominiquetaegon/status/1630948003962912768?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

Which features men gyrating and hanging from the ceiling surrounded by a crowd of clueless women and their babies.

I would say it's NSFW but it's apparently safe for babies so have a watch.

Here's a reddux article:

https://reduxx.info/uk-sold-out-rave-for-babies-featuring-drag-queens-prompts-outrage/

Since the video went viral, the company has taken down its website and Facebook and made their Instagram private. I wonder why?

I'm starting to think some people think that only the act of sex = sexualised activity.

These babies can't consent to being used as props.

It's beyond vile.

This is part of queer theory. Breaking down the boundaries of appropriate behaviour in front of babies and children.

It is part of queer theory.

Maybe the posters who support this event would like a reminder of what Foucault, considered very important to queer theory, and his group of activists achieved in France. Namely the law change allowing 14 year olds to engage in sexual relationships with adults. A law that only now the victims are trying to speak out, which is difficult because there are predators who took advantage of the law still in political influence.

Because a group of intellectuals decided that 14 year olds should have the body autonomy to decide to have sex with adults. So, those intellectuals, still celebrated today, took in 14 year old lovers.

Because lowering sexual boundaries, destabilising language and science to achieve this and 'acceptance' of aspects of post modernism such as 'people are who and what they say they are' is what queer theory is hinged on.

I unapologetically judge anyone who has taken their baby to this fetish exhibition, as well as anyone who defends it.

Children do not ever need to be around this sort of sexualised exhibitionist behaviour.

How can any one of those parents justify exposing their child to such age-inappropriate content!?!

It makes me sick.

It’s called ‘CABA BABY RAVE’ so how the fuck can anyone say it’s not for babies?

Christ on a fucking Cracker!

Adult performing in a thong and shoes commonly known as ‘stripper heels’ at an event called a ‘Baby Rave’?

But somehow this isn’t a sexualised performance for an audience of babies? 🤡

Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing.

I can't imagine a worse way to spend an afternoon than sitting on the floor of a badly ventilated community centre sports hall watching a shit am dram version of Magic Mike Live under harsh lighting, surrounded by grizzling bored infants. It's like people thought Brass Eye was a documentary.

Tbf, this is what DQST (or DQ colleagues) said they intended to do. Some are quite open about the intention to propagate Queer Theory as far as possible throughout schools and obviously if they can get parents on board, they are onto a winner.

Persuade parents that it is cool to ignore all we know about predatory sexual behaviour and that they should teach their kids to be cool with it and where do we end up?

Some seem to think that paedophiles are only grubby old men hiding in the shadows. They don’t understand that they hide in plain sight and rely on gullible adults turning a blind eye.

What do you believe is the accumulated positive outcome for a child who is exposed to sexual fetishist dance routines and costume over their first years of development?

I do not consider drag to always be sexualised and not a fetish, so its a non point for me. shrug

How would you get clearance to perform like that in front of children? As I’m assuming all “child entertainers”, “sensory activity” providers and people working with children would have to have passed police checks/etc?

That’s a very performative shrug considering how invested you are in telling people their concerns are unnecessary.

double shrug

Idiots! The people who take their children to see this sexualized crap are idiots!

And if those idiots can't see how wrong this is on so many levels then god help their children when it comes to developing decent boundaries.

Do they not realise how easy they are making it for predators to groom and abuse their children.

It makes me feel sick. Those kids stand no chance.

If this is happening in community centres, I'd bet decent money that they are in breach of their licensing conditions.

My local licensing team is very good at responding to queries and complaints - and they have their own powers to act on child safeguarding concerns. And these are informed by the Licensing Act, not queer theory, fortunately.

Yes but so edgy- and you can post about it on Insta and everyone will know how cool and progressive you are

Just because YOU don't consider drag sexualised and YOU don't consider it a fetish, clearly there is sexualised content at these events and that is not just 'drag'.

Answer the question or not. It actually doesn't matter. Readers will be able to make up their own minds as to whether you understand the ramifications or not from what you have posted and your evasive answer.

I think they will also make their own decisions about your statement:

"I can only imagine the type of utter wanker who complains about it."

I say crack on. Because it is a great live demonstration of the type of dismissal by people who think that children should have their sexual boundaries lowered. It shows a great live demonstration of a person who cannot clearly recognise adult sexual behaviour as well.

😂😂😂

And I bet anyone can rock up and identify as a Very Cool Mummy. You probably don't have to a mummy. Or a woman. How is that being risk assessed?

I do not consider drag to always be sexualised and not a fetish, so its a non point for me.

At what point for you would it become sexualised?

I am really tired (bad night sleep) and browsed the thread. I am so confused. Do we have

a) posters here arguing that as it not is “for babies” in their mind sexualised content is fine (as long as nobody gets a boner from watching babies in this context - but that would NEVER happen)?

b) posters arguing that as some drag acts not are sexualised, we are bigots for questioning almost naked men and or/drag queens interacting with babies?

please tell me that I am hallucinating?

I saw the video on twitter and all the mums were laughing and clapping.
I wanted to slap every one of them. Absolute morons.

Some seem to think that paedophiles are only grubby old men hiding in the shadows. They don’t understand that they hide in plain sight and rely on gullible adults turning a blind eye.
Agree.

The first rule of safeguarding is it could happen here/abuse or neglect can happen anywhere.

Any attempt to diminish this, erode boundaries, or shut down questions is a step backwards in terms of safeguarding.

No adults should be immune from questions about safeguarding and any adult who seeks to shut down safeguarding discussions proves why it is essential for safeguarding conversations to be had.

Sorry, it was 13 year olds.

There is plenty of sources, just google. These 'intellectuals' shaped the rape culture in France too. Making it incredibly hard for children who were victims to find justice. Including 11 year olds!!!

Two books started the push back. I don't usually quote wiki but this is quickest

"The law comes after several books were published reigniting a debate about paedophilia in the country."

"In "Consent", book editor Vanessa Springora detailed how she was seduced by award-winning essayist Gabriel Matzneff when she was just 13 and he was 50. The book rocked France's cultural elite as Springora wrote about how many prominent literary and media figures were aware of Matzneff's preference for underage girls."

"In "La Familia Grande", Camille Kouchner accused her stepfather, prominent political scientist Olivier Duhamel, of raping her twin brother when he was 13 and 14. The revelations sent shockwaves through the political sphere and led to Duhamel's resignation from the prestigious Sciences Po university in Paris."

This needs highlighting:

The book rocked France's cultural elite as Springora wrote about how many prominent literary and media figures were aware of Matzneff's preference for underage girls.

Foucault was just one of the signatories to the petition to change the law in the 1970s. He is a known paedophile who wrote about sex with minors. He is considered a very important figure in queer theory where sexual boundaries of children and adults are lowered.

These events contribute to the sexual boundaries being lowered. These events also appeal to the parts of society who are ignoring that children are being sexualised.

The question must be always asked:

Who benefits from this?

Exactly who benefits from this? Not just the direct beneficiaries.

Oh well, if London Insta Mummies love it, then the rest of us can just shut up I guess.

A social media ‘pile on’ is entirely appropriate and justified when people see giant red flags in a public event for babies.

Aside from the issues already raised in this thread, for me, this is the culmination of the "I'm mad, me" style of parenting that's become so fashionable in middle class circles in recent years. It's the "wine o'clock" brigade. The people who are conventional enough in their tastes as to want a family, but constantly feel the need to rail against it.
This is where it ends, at a bloody BabaJabbaRave, or whatever this nightmare is called.

Mate, we can all see the bloke with his legs open wearing a thong. You trying to pretend
that everyone else is blind, doesn't really work, I'm afraid.