Caba Baba Rave - take your baby to watch nearly naked men in fetish gear

[Clymene]

Journalist Dominique Samuels has posted video of one of their events: https://twitter.com/dominiquetaegon/status/1630948003962912768?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

Which features men gyrating and hanging from the ceiling surrounded by a crowd of clueless women and their babies.

I would say it's NSFW but it's apparently safe for babies so have a watch.

Here's a reddux article:

https://reduxx.info/uk-sold-out-rave-for-babies-featuring-drag-queens-prompts-outrage/

Since the video went viral, the company has taken down its website and Facebook and made their Instagram private. I wonder why?

And all of Richard Curtis’ films give me the ick too. I have no idea why he believes he has a grasp of romance.

And all of Richard Curtis’ films give me the ick too. I have no idea why he believes he has a grasp of romance.

The only film of his that I like is Four Weddings. I think Love Actually is vile, especially the porn film and stalker bits.

Marquis de Sade and Story of O were both on the degree syllabus when I was at uni but I can’t recall much of the content of either.

She was definitely right place right time. It's not my sort of reading but I have it on good authority there was much better writers of the genre at the same time!

But yeah she never expected it to take off the way it did either!

Also as I'm here

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

I think I've signed it, is there any way to check?

You should have immediately been sent an email to confirm your signature, perhaps check if you've still got it. Or just try to sign again. If you already have done it'll tell you.

You need to confirm your email address. It won’t be included until you click on it in the email.

You should have immediately been sent an email to confirm your signature, perhaps check if you've still got it. Or just try to sign again. If you already have done it'll tell you.

Thank you. I think I did it a while ago but I wasn't sure if this was a different one.

Also, if you have already signed it and try to do so again, it won't let you.

I clicked to sign and when I got the email it said it was a duplicate signature so obviously signed it many moons ago!

Thank you, it's let me sign it so I'm guessing it was another one that I signed a while ago.

So here we are coming up to a week later…. And nope! Not one statement from the organisers that this was ‘faked’ footage.

We even inadvertently had confirmation that these performances did occur on a now deleted thread.

Are those declaring it fake coming back to condemn it yet? Or was that all just performative too? You know, it’s fake but if it wasn’t I ‘would certainly condemn it’… but now those posters have just disappeared.

Plus ca change! As it ever was!

Just trying to match some of the pictures with dates and venues. These are the Leyton/Leytonstone ones that I can confirm via what’s left online.

(I see we can posts gifs on Mumsnet now - that’ll be handy for sharing baby stripper club images!😬)

@Mannymoomin

@CryptoFascistMadameCholet thank you! You’ve been wonderful.

You are very welcome.

I’m just glad that so many Mumsnetters are saying WTAF about these events.

I’m just glad that so many Mumsnetters are saying WTAF about these events.

Me too.

And in the deleted AMA thread, I have a hunch that the one or two posters trying to convince people of a more intellectual argument as to why baby drag is a good idea, actually had the opposite effect.

There are only so many times you can hear words like liberation, freedom, self expression, exploration, and identity in the context of entertaining babies without seeing it as one big word salady attempt at manipulation.

Absolutely.

I’m starting to think we should reverse some of their accusations (eg ‘woman = adult human female is a right wing dog whistle) because they seem to use ‘Moral Panic’ as a coded shield for Paedo-apologia.

I’ve just been texted a non Mumsnet friend about Caba Baba Wave and she said it was ‘Like Panto but without any Pants’

Panto without the pants. Brilliant!

I mentioned on the CBR AMA thread that there is no other activity for babies and parents that would involve a session-leading adult only wearing a thong.

The nearest you would get is an aquatots session, and even then a thong bikini/thong pouch would be seen as extremely strange, to the point people would stop booking sessions with that swim leader. You put this level of nudity in pretty much any other baby session situation, and it becomes clear that it is wildly weird. In Britain, men wearing speedos in swimming pools are classed as a bit odd, for heaven's sake.

And you know why this stuff was for "under 2s"? Because at over two, kids are starting to be verbal. And at four, they are going to point and say things like "Mummy, you can see that man's bottom." and "Mummy, why does that lady have no clothes on?"

'Cos they know. They know it's strange. They know people don't walk around in public places with no clothes on with their bottoms showing.

I'm going to throw a line out though. I suspect many of the mums who went along were first time mums with babies, who had no personal experience of toddlers at that point, so didn't maybe realise just how conscious preschoolers children can be about things to do with bottoms -- being either indignant or silly, depending whose bottom it is.

And maybe the performers haven't got children of their own and didn't actually think about much more than a gig and a pay check.

But the organisers really should have thought twice. And the venues really should have asked more questions.

And you know why this stuff was for "under 2s"? Because at over two, kids are starting to be verbal. And at four, they are going to point and say things like "Mummy, you can see that man's bottom." and "Mummy, why does that lady have no clothes on?"

'Cos they know. They know it's strange. They know people don't walk around in public places with no clothes on with their bottoms showing.

This is such a good point.

“Mummy, mummy, why is that man SHOWING HIS BOTTOM? You said I had to wear trousers or I couldn’t go to nursery. Why can he go out without trousers and I can’t?”

”Mummy, mummy, now that lady is isn’t wearing trousers either, how come she’s allowed to show her bottom? You said showing your bottom was rude and I mustn’t do it, that bottoms were for bathrooms, not playgroups”

”MUMMY YOU SAID CHAIRS ARE FOR SITTING NOT FOR HANDSTANDS!!!”

One of mine had a bizarrely precocious relationship with language, full sentences long before 2 and taught himself to read by putting the subtitles on for CBeebies.

He would’ve been a bloody nightmare for Cabababarave.
Lots of pointing and bellowing ‘OOOOOOOOHHHHH THAT’S RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE” and “I DON’T LIKE HER” followed by ‘WIG!’ and “DON’T LET THAT GIANT LADY-MAN TOUCH ME!”

He was a particularly odd child because he was a very late walker, a bum shuffler who didn’t even try and stand up until 18 months, so could talk well before he could reliably walk anywhere.

You know when a camera POV
peers into a pram in a vintage cartoon and finds a little old man in a bonnet, smoking a cigar? He was like that, only without the cigar.

Still, best not give Cabababarave any future ideas, they might decide to move forward in a more family friendly direction… by hiring Furries, Bronies and Adult Babies.

The shit would really hit the fan if the kid then went into nursery/childminder and told everyone about the afternoon trip to see a man hanging from the ceiling in his underpants and how mummy drank special drinks that toddlers aren’t allowed to sip while she clapped and cheered for the dangly man.

Very nearly a line from Ted Lasso (I paraphrase but, marvelling at the many different uses of the word 'boot' Ted comes up with the sentence, "I could get the boot for putting the boots in the boot".)

Panto without the pants was pretty pants.

CabaBabaRave is all about lowering the sexual boundaries of children and even adults.

Ask the question. Who benefits from that?

Not fake! This is real!