Helloprint has suddenly refused to supply stickers to Kellie-Jay Keen

[IwantToRetire]

The main source to this story is the Daily Mail:

The firm also made a T-shirt designed by Ms Keen and worn by JK Rowling which described First Minister Nicola Sturgeon as a 'Destroyer of women's rights' over the controversial Gender Recognition Act.

But now the company - who has accepted £75,000 of orders from the cause - now says they are 'offensive material'.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11709415/Anger-woke-firm-refuses-print-stickers-defining-women-adult-human-females-trans-row.html

Although there is a twitter thread about this mobile.twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1620102242396409857

When Magdalen died tragically early from a brain tumour, TRA's made horrific posts about dancing on her grave. 'Veronica Ivy' (formerly Rachel McKinnon, formally a man's name) said, of those people who were celebrating Magdalen's impending death, such celebrations are "ethically justified when the person dying has engaged in extreme harassment of a marginalised group'.

Are they great people in your eyes?

Magdalen fought against many things well before others were aware of them - she criticised the hideous concept of the cotton ceiling, she spoke against deplatforming and for single sex spaces for girls in Schools, among many other things. If any lurkers haven't heard or her, look her up. She's great.

As she said herself - 'I'd rather be rude than a fucking liar'.

Out of curiosity is there anyone who passes your purity test?

Are they great people in your eyes?
No, people saying or doing that aren't great people in my eyes.
Where do you get from my post that I thought they would be?
I think that's a disgusting thing to do.
Why the whataboutery, anyway?
Do you think calling people who are trans black face actors and sick fucks are great people?
Seeing as you're asking me if I think dancing on people's graves is a nice thing to do or saying that you quoted (no, I don't, as I said and have never implied otherwise)

Not sure what specific incident you're referring to, is it the one where some gender criticals tried to hijack a pride march and march at the front (they hadn't registered, which was required) but weren't permitted to do so by other marchers and (after causing an obstruction and disturbance) were asked by police to leave?

That's nothing at all to do with their beliefs, that's because they didn't follow the rules (which everyone else had to follow) and were causing trouble.

It's happened a few times, gender criticals trying to make out they were victimised "because of their beliefs" then it turns out there's a valid explanation.

People who openly celebrate the death of a young woman are sick fucks so I can't say I disagree with her there.

I'm not a fan of the whole blackface/womanface equivalency but I can certainly understand the objections behind the concept of using the concept of women as a costume (I.e. nothing more than stereotypes of appearance and behaviours). Dylan 'I've been a girl for 100 days!!' Mulvaney being a perfect example of what women are objecting to.

Yes. That was the cyclepath.

For any lurkers, here's Magdalen's YouTube channel - https://youtube.com/@MagdalenBerns

People who openly celebrate the death of a young woman are sick fucks so I can't say I disagree with her there
People who do that are sick fucks, I completely agree
That's not what she said were sick fucks though - not sure if you're aware, or if you're twisting?
She said people who are trans are sick fucks and black face actors
Do you agree there with her?

Here's the full quote I assume you are referring to -

“You are fucking blackface actors. You aren’t women. You’re men who get sexual kicks from being treated like women. fuck you and your dirty fucking perversions. our oppression isn’t a fetish you pathetic, sick, fuck.”

Quite obviously she is referring to AGP there. Which is a paraphillia. And women don't particularly like their oppression used as a sexual fetish. Some examples of how those who have AGP view women - “an open mouth, an expectant asshole, blank, blank eyes” (Andrea Long Chu) or “sometimes I wonder if dressing up like this is the equivalent of having sex with myself' (Caitlyn Jenner).

(As that term used to be banned here, I have to see how long this stays up). TRA's don't like it when it is pointed out that for at least some (certainly not all) it is a sexual fetish.

I addressed the black face issue in my previous post. Perhaps you missed it?

Quite obviously she is referring to AGP there
It's made obvious where exactly in that you've just quoted?

You’re men who get sexual kicks from being treated like women.

'Autogynephilia is defined as a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female.'(National Library of Medicine)

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People say that about trans women, though and have seen it on here.. So where exactly does it refer to "being obviously about AGP?"
It doesn't.

I give up. I simply can't spell it out any clearer. I tried but it just isn't possible.

You can teach someone but you can't learn for them.

I tried too, so we'll clearly have to agree to disagree 🙂

Nobody agrees with you.

Its perfectly clear Wait, some are choosing to be obtuse.

😂 What, ever?
Or just with "GC " views that don't deviate on here?!

some are choosing to be obtuse
Well, I agree there. Just coming from a different viewpoint.

To be honest Red, I'm unsure what your viewpoint is. Not just in the current to and fro going on. Where do you personally fall in amongst all this debate?

What would be the ideal outcome to the current women's rights trans right debate for you?

Funny how the same names come up on different threads and each time manage (despite their previous record) to derail a thread with whataboutery.

I know @IwantToRetire its almost like having no coherent arguments and no reasonable justification for their viewpoints means their only recourse is to try and harangue and bully people into agreeing with them. I mean, it must be hard to accept that believing in gender ideology means you’re defending the rights of violent male rapists to be locked up with vulnerable women, and for those rapists, on their release, to use the same spaces as vulnerable women.

@MargaritaPie and @RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella have previously condoned and minimised violence against women who object to males In Their spaces and both have supported self ID.

this means they believe TW are women if they say they are, no question. Therefore, as IB has identified as a woman, IB is a woman in all contexts according to their ideology. Therefore IB belongs in a woman’s prison and a huge miscarriage of justice has been done. and women pointing out self ID would lead to this have been bullied and harassed for saying so.

so @MargaritaPie and @RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella i have one question for you
Do you believe that as you claim transwomen are women, IB should be in female prison, and if not who not? Are you suggesting TW should only be treated as women in certain contexts, and if so what are those contexts?

Happylittlechicken · Today 06:37

I mean, it must be hard to accept that believing in gender ideology means you’re defending the rights of violent male rapists to be locked up with vulnerable women...

They don't care, because they are utterly convinced that these rapists are actual, literal women and that their desire to be placed in the company of women is natural and right and that not to do so far outweighs the damage done by their crimes.

It is clear but I don’t think that poster is being obtuse, i think they honestly don’t understand what wait is saying