Helloprint has suddenly refused to supply stickers to Kellie-Jay Keen

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The main source to this story is the Daily Mail:

The firm also made a T-shirt designed by Ms Keen and worn by JK Rowling which described First Minister Nicola Sturgeon as a 'Destroyer of women's rights' over the controversial Gender Recognition Act.

But now the company - who has accepted £75,000 of orders from the cause - now says they are 'offensive material'.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11709415/Anger-woke-firm-refuses-print-stickers-defining-women-adult-human-females-trans-row.html

Although there is a twitter thread about this mobile.twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1620102242396409857

This is a very interesting point. In the Asher case, the whole thing felt more ‘personal’ because there would actually be a person who was writing on the cake. Here, I presume no individual is actually involved in producing the content apart from the customer. Of course, probably individuals are needed at some point (putting the stickers into an envelope?)

Anyway, good reminder, thank you.

Sorry my message meant to quote @CharlieParley

Surely it's easy to print your own stickers providing you use the right paper...

But the knee-jerk vitriol on BOTH sides drowns out the merits of the argument. *
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Nope. You need to have a clearer look. Women saying no is in no way comparable to the rape and death threats the gender y regularly indulge in. The 'both sides' thing is claptrap. In fact, nothing shows more clearly how this is a men's rights movement than the sexualised violence of the TRA rhetoric.

Also. What possible merit is there in reducing womanhood down to a set of regressive, repressive stereotypes, in opening up women's spaces and the quashing of safeguarding? In the mutilation of young women and the physical, emotional and sexual stunting of our children?

Bloody bold fail.

Hello, BleepBlipBop. I too once popped in and suggested the women round here be kinder, soften their words to make them easier to read.

I was taught (rather sharply) about female socialisation, that on this board I could express myself however I wanted, and to expect others too as well. My arse was handed to me, without even a gift bow on top.

As I've read on, and seen what women are dealing with, the sheer bloody ignorance of people who simply can't seem to listen when women speak, I've come to understand it better.

No amount of 'be kind' is going to smooth this shit show into reasonableness. When people will create a third category- men, women and rapists- in order to deny reality, then there's no point in wearing gloves. This is a bare knuckle situation.

The 'both sides' thing is such a bizarre one.
On one hand, you have women locked up with rapists, teen swimmers being forced to undress in front of men or give up their dreams and years of training, there's protestors turning up at women's rights meetings, pushing and shoving women, throwing water over them and bashing at the windows, there's the endless death and rape threats on social media and more in-person images at marches of nooses, guillotines, graves, instructions to 'choke on dick', more women than I can count offhand who've lost their jobs and countless more fearful that they will and on and on.
And on the other side, there are women who object to the above and say that female people are real, not stereotypes and are deserving of rights.
Anyone who is 'both sidesing' this is either not paying any attention to what women are actually saying or is so innured to violence against women that their brains automatically dismiss what's right in front of them.

It's the shock of women speaking bluntly rather than what they say. It's tone policing.

It's so rare for women to just baldly state what is, and isn't, and to not give a damn about the feelings of the audience.

Tone has a place when we are trying to persuade.
This board isn't an exercise in persuasive writing though. It's a place women can express themselves freely. Without being policed for tone.

Knee jerk vitriol on 'both sides'

<looks at the signs advocating beheading and rape with smiling MSPs beneath. Looks at the mob in balaclavas throwing smoke bombs and screaming to stop women talking about their 'lived experience'. Looks at the throwing of homosexuals out of Pride. Looks at the insistence that rapists and violent, dangerous men in women's prisons are a good thing. Looks at the demand to march into women's spaces in a kind of 'inclusion' that excludes vulnerable women from anything at all so men get choice.>

<looks at stickers stating reality and the downsides of all this from women, and women insisting on stating reality and truth when men don't want them to>

<draws own conclusions and buggers off>

It's entirely up to them who they supply or dont

In honour of KJK

WOMAN ADULT HUMAN FEMALE

“That poster might be a TRA troll” = “vitriol” from women.

“Die in a grease fire / eat a dick / decapitate TERFs / kill JKR / shoot a TERF today / got my anti-TERF gun / choke on my ladydick” = well it’s not great but it’s both sides, innit.

Aye, whatever 🙄

I got told this week that I was aggressive and angry and he wasn’t going to engage with me because I told a man that it should not be his choice whether women accepted a male person in their prison, even with that male’s cock chopped off.

I think he took exception to the blunt ‘cock chopped off’ language and being told no at the same time.

It never once occurred to him that telling women what they should accept and what they should be comfortable, and then censoring my language was a sure sign of a misogynist….. he flounced in outrage.

When I hear the whole 'bad as both sides' thing, I do wonder how the person trying to convince themselves that that is the case have managed to ignore the plethora of violent actions of TRA's and the lack of an equivalent from women fighting for their rights.

There's no equivalent from women of the 'decapitate terfs' sign. Women don't protest at trans events while blocking, spitting at and pushing participants. Women don't chalk sexual threats outside venues. There's no equivalent of this - www.terfisaslur.com. etc etc etc.

The so-called equivalent seems to be women speaking directly. It seems to jar people that women aren't abiding by the social conditioning they grow up with to 'be kind'. The TRA tactics of no debate, no platforming and the silencing effect worked for so long that people new to this seem to get a bit of a shock that women object to organisations up and down the country and many of their elected politicians tell them to shut up, while standing under signs calling for women to be beheaded as an example. The phrase Women won't wheesht has taken hold because women have had enough of being told to be quiet 'for Indy' or until x,y,z are sorted.

This company are now a complete laughing stock and I hope they go out of business.

Also agree with everyone pointing out that men and TRAs are stunned when women dare to say no to them and then rain down violent threats (and violent actions) upon us. Both sides as bad as each other? Utter nonsense.

There's plenty of stickers with many different messages defacing property. Will they refuse to print stickers in future to prevent this risk?

The rest of your post is bollocks.

Nasty on both sides?
I think I must have missed the part where we wanted to decapitate Transwomen

All the tone policing on the threads in this board has, over the years, really woken me up to the depth and breadth of female socialisation.

I've got a lot arsier as a direct result. Poor old DH...

This week I have come across a whole slew of new posters who have really been interesting.

They come onto a thread use words like echo chamber, anti trans, dog whistle, entrenched and then claim they have ‘no agenda’. They seriously think using words like that are not negative.

It is gaslighting.

No person who has a supposed balanced view could view using entrenched and echo chamber as being neutral.

The old ‘daily mail’ reader put down is hilarious too. I notice though one regular poster who joined in the ‘daily mail is right wing’ never came back to point out where the daily mail article was factually wrong or had misinterpreted the situation it reported. Nor did they come back with information on how Julie Bindel was now right wing….

No. This week has been enlightening. I put it down to frustration that some extremists have had to admitting to themselves that the mantra of TW are women is now never going to work. Nor is the mantra ‘accept people for who they say they are’.

They have nothing but emotional manipulation.

Looking even just at the news today, the KJK event in Glasgow is being protested by Furries and folk in masks who intend to sing and scream in order to drown out the women speaking at the event -

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/snp-minister-throwing-petrol-fire-29110119

It's a stark example of women not being allowed to speak. And this being backed by our elected representatives.

Let’s hope some posters never stumble across the r/googlyeyes sub-Reddit, they’ll need to take to their fainting couch.

Well said

The humour here is so gentle too. I mean sharp and witty, but gentle.
Jokes about overworked support dogs, and soggy bundles.

None of this 'jokes' about women being splattered over car windows like a sack of baked beans, or whatever it said about driving a car into women protesters.

So worried about KJK tomorrow. Wish I could go.