'Breaking' - Transgender rapist won’t be imprisoned in Scotland’s all-women jail, Nicola Sturgeon tells MSPs

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Excellent news.

And Sturgeon has really shot herself in the foot here (again). Because if she really thinks 'trans women are women', why is she not allowing this 'woman' to go to a female prison?

So therefore she knows this person is not a woman.

So therefore she is being transphobic...

*whose, not who's

I swear, this cesspit of a rabbit hole is never ending. It’s horrendous yet enlightening

Maybe that explains why Alice in Wonderland is my fave Disney movie. 😂

Was reading an excellent Twitter feed this morning by @mbmpolicy, which highlighted how the decision making process during the development of the SPS’s Gender Identity & Gender Reassignment Policy “failed entirely to consider the impact of its policy on female prisoners and staff, focusing only on the needs of transgender prisoners.”

Also, the Equality Impacts Assessment SPS conducted to ensure the new policy upheld the Equality Act, reveals no female prisoners, no prison staff and no woman’s rights groups were consulted during the policy making process. But the following groups were consulted:

• Trans people in prison and in the community
• SPS Mangers and Officers (including E& D Managers)
• Trade Union
• Government Agencies (including Scottish Government and English Prison Service)
• SPS Legal Branch
• Scottish Transgender Alliance
• Capability Scotland
• Stonewall Scotland

Then whilst on Twitter (again! 🙈) I saw a post saying a senior prison official convicted of child pornography was involved in the the SPS policy.

So of course being the She of Sleuthing that I am (love that and have never come across it before! courtesy of @ResisterRex 😊), I looked into the people involved in making their policy.
And lo and behold - Gordon Pike is one of the 8 people listed within the list Equality Impact Assessment.

Can this get any worse, I honestly don’t know.

Some links -

Tweets by @mbmpolicy that highlights the failings of the SPS when developing their gender identity policy:
twitter.com/mbmpolicy/status/1334134015914283009?s=46&t=xVx1S150XeNw9ZXQtMUqrg

The Equality Impacts Assessment undertaken by SPS: www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/496110/response/1200987/attach/3/Annex%201%20EHRIA%20Gender%20Identity%20and%20Gender%20Reassignment%20Policy%20March%202014%20002.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1

Conviction details of senior SPS official, Gordon Pike, convicted for child pornography, and also involved in the SPS Gender Identity Policy:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sex-offender-gordon-pike-helped-set-prison-trans-rules-q8n3lnksv

MBM deserve a bloody medal. They are brilliant.

The amount of politicians, journalists and all-round fuckwits coming out with, 'Well, in this one extreme instance it isn't right to send this rapist to a women's prison' is infuriating

Their minds are going to be blown then over the next week as all the other cases appear in their Twitter feeds

😁

@SuperShe

Wow, you've been busy, that's my evenings reading sorted!

I wonder why the trans Rights supporters never end up down these rabbit holes. Do they never verify bloody anything? Ever?

Faith doesn't require verification. That's the point, isn't it?

Faith actively denies proof.

When it's religious faith it can neither be proven nor disproven.

However the transgender faith can be disproven by the simple expedient of the biology.

SCIENCE! What a transphobic bitch she is! I LOVE HER!!!

Just in case my point is missed because my previous post was a tad too long! (Sorry!)

Today, I discovered that Gordon Pike, who was a senior official for the Scottish Prison Service (SPS) and responsible for the development of SPS’s Gender Identity and Gender Reassignment Policy (2014), was convicted for child pornography in 2018.

Tbf I was thinking babelfish and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.

Hiding in plain sight.

All of them.

When it's religious faith it can neither be proven nor disproven.

However the transgender faith can be disproven by the simple expedient of the biology.

Exactly. I'm an atheist but I have a lot more respect for religious believers compared to TRAs. Religious believers could conceivably be right - we can't know. But we do know that gender ideology is internally inconsistent and disproved by facts.

Well my main view is that your friend should stay the right side of the law and it won't be an issue.

Of course that's not what you are asking. Well your friend if they must break the law and end up in prison it should be the Male estate. We could say, effeminate men, gay men, fragile men should also use the female estate, but they dont. What's the difference?

Women are not default human shields, if my daughter was in prison at the same time, she should be allowed to have as much dignity as any other woman. We all know the Male gaze is or can be fucking awful and predatory and frightening.

Even if we are not at risk of rape , plenty of sexual assaults happen without the mighty penis.

That's fantastic! Isla can give them beauty tips! Well maybe not the murderers.

Thank you. That made me snort with laughter.

@ GenderWang is a great follow on Twitter

Maybe time for a recruitment drive for trans officers?

@nilsmousehammer - you are right. The Scottish Government will face a judicial review on this. Because however sensible it is now move this man into a male prison, it means that other decisions not to do so, and the guidance are in question. Sturgeon's intervention also problematic.

A basket case government- full of stupid people who seem to think law is whatever you say it is on the day. The SNP leadership are idiotic. They are actually worse that their Westminster equivalents who at least know how to present a u turn.

That SPS Equality Impact Assessment is a shocker.

The form refers to gender not sex (so not the protected characteristic) and anyway the box isn't even ticked.

Which equality groups will be affected by the new or revised policy/practice?
= Age, gender identity, sexual orientation - ticked.
= Gender - not ticked.

The we have
Eliminate discrimination, harassment and victimisation?
= It will eliminate discrimination, harassment and victimisation- ticked.
= It will make discrimination, harassment and victimisation worse - not ticked.

Apprenently it's also going to foster good relations between people who share a protected characteristic and those who do not. How's that going Nicola?

For newbies
Heres two very informative threads

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me?page=23&reply=101057943

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread?page=30&reply=123109522

Enjoy your trip.

Looking forward to this:

Janice turner:

My Times column tomorrow is on policies which led to a Scottish double rapist being remanded to a women’s prison. I’ve used his original male name & pronouns throughout. Under UK laws, rape is penetration with a penis, ie a male crime.

Not calling a rapist “she” is my red line.

What in the name of chuffing fuck is a (recently) convicted paedophile doing working in the prison service? And enabling trans into women's prisons?

If that isn't an ace to prove the complete moral bankruptcy of the whole gig, I don't know what is.

They are like rats there's always one within a couple of feet of you.

Another very dangerous male prisoner but you would barely understand that from this article.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/new-trans-prisoner-storm-looms-29069314

I see the screenshot and all I can think is, you didnt figure out for yourself that man changing sex is a load of baloney? How fucking stupid are you and why should I vote for you.

I happen to believe this is the biggest threat and in your position I would fight for women until that battle was won then get on to the eco battles.