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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'

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ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 13:23

twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1616767482785632260

'Stewart McDonald, Kirsten Oswald, Kaukab Stewart and Alison Thewliss were at the Glasgow protest to support the trans community and stand up for Scotland's democracy.'

That's them standing in front of a sign that says 'decapitate terfs'.

Again, I'm genuinely fucking shocked. This inflammatory, violent rhetoric is not acceptable.

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nauticant · 21/01/2023 17:39

I suppose it depends on whether they're Good Death Threats or Bad Death Threats. Until a couple of weeks ago, threats like these seemed to be perceived by trans activists as the Good ones but they've been caught lagging behind the times and now they're not sure what to say.

Aphrathestorm · 21/01/2023 17:43

I used to think having more women as MPs and MSPs would be a good thing for women.

I'm so disappointed in AT, KO, KS et al.

I could cry.

I could actually cry.

JellySaurus · 21/01/2023 17:46

PIE is like "oh my dh isn't a rapist, so we should ignore those few rotten apples who are" yeah, right, thanks but no thanks.

IcakethereforeIam · 21/01/2023 17:47

I've seen tras excusing it because some terfs are men! Death threats are, apparently, okay if men are also subject to them.

I'm struck by the time it must have taken to make that sign. I mean it's hardly the ceiling of the Cistine Chapel scream, but, unlike the cannibalism one, it was not just dashed off. It took care, there's attention to detail. But the person making it didn't take a moment to think that, maybe, it made them look like the baddies.

Whereareyourshoes · 21/01/2023 17:47

Justme56 · 21/01/2023 14:25

Just adding to the gallery.

How lovely. Alex Cole-Hamilton, Patrick Harvie and Ross Greer cheering on the delightful person who makes frequent ‘jokes’ about committing acts of violence against women.

And as for those politicians standing in front of the decapitate T*RFS sign. You can pretty much guarantee any trans rights protest will feature signs with violent threats against women. Open your eyes and ears and pay attention to what you are mindlessly supporting.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 21/01/2023 17:47

How does Marge know there are men and women in her picture? Seems a touch presumptuous.

ResisterRex · 21/01/2023 17:58

I'm assuming there will now be an enormous outrage and boycott of the premises where the signs were made, in parallel for demands that the licence for the bar is reviewed.

Because they're "bad apples" you wouldn't want to be associated with:

twitter.com/tumshiem/status/1616825119351132160?s=46&t=F5k2jv3CekrLQ24aHhEOZw

<waits>

IcakethereforeIam · 21/01/2023 17:58

Oh, while I'm here. Please follow the link to sign and share the petition, get the Equality Act amended so sex means biological sex.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4722618-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-2

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/01/2023 17:59

People always say 'bad apples' without finishjng the proverb.
A few bad apples rot the whole barrel.
Always remember the second half!

So true, people never engage with it properly! Very salient point.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 18:03

ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 15:46

I always see this stuff and think 'well, that's indefensible'.

Yet ...

'That banner is what happens after years of media/government attacks and lies. You can't just keep attacking a minority and not expect them to be angry about it.'

twitter.com/skrunklebunkle/status/1616817004488560640

Fuck!! Somebody seeks to justify that?

nilsmousehammer · 21/01/2023 18:06

Yet somehow women have managed years of fury without breaking the law or threatening to kill anyone.

It's almost like emotion doesn't automatically equal unacceptable behaviour. And that mature and civilised people have something called self control, and boundaries, and a grip.

JellySaurus · 21/01/2023 18:08

Yet the women fighting to retain their rights don't create such banners, not even after years of media/government attacks and lies.

MarshaBradyo · 21/01/2023 18:10

No we don’t re us doing it

I’m sad about the hatred and violence in response

It’s more of the same but amplified

Waitwhat23 · 21/01/2023 18:10

VinoDino · 21/01/2023 16:35

Have they any clue about the background of guy they were applauding? Who boasted about going mob handed to the bathrooms in the Scottish Parliament? To intimidate women.

Very disturbing.

This person?

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FigRollsAlly · 21/01/2023 18:11

The bad apple sort of person is exactly why we don’t want people to be able to self declare for a GRC though Marge. Bad apples will take advantage of anything that makes being bad easier.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 18:12

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 17:22

I agree that sort of sign isn't helping the cause. However there are hundreds of men and women who are peacefully showing support.

There are always going to be a few bad apples in any crowd of people big enough.

That is not a denouncement marg. Considering the posts you post demanding condemnation of actions that are not even ‘hate’, why do you expect to be not held up to the standard you demand of other posters?

I consider your post another in the same tone as ‘it was just a cream pie. You have minimised this sign in an attempt to dismiss that it is a violent threat to women who disagree with you.

VinoDino · 21/01/2023 18:14

@Waitwhat23 the very one. A quick google reveals that he is exactly why we don't want people like him in our spaces. And here we have our politicians applauding him?

Stop the world I want to get off.

JacquelinePot · 21/01/2023 18:14

"Decapitat terfs" sounds a lot like incitement to violence. What's the procedure for reporting this to the police?

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 18:15

ResisterRex · 21/01/2023 17:58

I'm assuming there will now be an enormous outrage and boycott of the premises where the signs were made, in parallel for demands that the licence for the bar is reviewed.

Because they're "bad apples" you wouldn't want to be associated with:

twitter.com/tumshiem/status/1616825119351132160?s=46&t=F5k2jv3CekrLQ24aHhEOZw

<waits>

God they really are stupid aren't they.

Look here is the place where we made the hate speech signs

This is the pub where we proudly let people make signs about wanting to murder people

ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 18:15

IcakethereforeIam · 21/01/2023 17:47

I've seen tras excusing it because some terfs are men! Death threats are, apparently, okay if men are also subject to them.

I'm struck by the time it must have taken to make that sign. I mean it's hardly the ceiling of the Cistine Chapel scream, but, unlike the cannibalism one, it was not just dashed off. It took care, there's attention to detail. But the person making it didn't take a moment to think that, maybe, it made them look like the baddies.

It was made at an organised workshop.

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ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 18:18

MPs staffer claims the sign was 'other than reality'. I believe he's since deleted his Twitter account.

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nilsmousehammer · 21/01/2023 18:20

He's claiming it was photoshopped or just carefully framed?

All of them?

How about the pub where they were all made, with the photos by the people who proudly made them? Are they just mistaken photos too?

Bloody hell, the worms are wriggling tonight.

lifeturnsonadime · 21/01/2023 18:20

I think this is really serious tbh.

I know that this is in Scotland but has Kier Starmer come out to condemn this yet?

It's less than a decade since Jo Cox was brutally murdered and we have men holding placards calling for the decapitation of women who want women's rights?

And then we had that odious behaviour from one of his MPs intimidating a woman speaking out for women's rights in the HoC.

This has got to stop.

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 18:22

ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 18:18

MPs staffer claims the sign was 'other than reality'. I believe he's since deleted his Twitter account.

But but but there's footage of them talking with the Fucking signs there throughout, there's proof from the pub where it was made.

They really don't want to own this shit do they.

to late mate you choose your side and this is what you're side think about women.

Get over it.

IcakethereforeIam · 21/01/2023 18:22

@ArabellaScott Shock