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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'

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ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 13:23

twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1616767482785632260

'Stewart McDonald, Kirsten Oswald, Kaukab Stewart and Alison Thewliss were at the Glasgow protest to support the trans community and stand up for Scotland's democracy.'

That's them standing in front of a sign that says 'decapitate terfs'.

Again, I'm genuinely fucking shocked. This inflammatory, violent rhetoric is not acceptable.

SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/01/2023 12:14

They gave a press conference this morning.

PronounssheRa · 23/01/2023 12:17

Is there a better way to express the view "DECAPITATE TERFS"?"

Burn the witch?

WarriorN · 23/01/2023 12:18

It will be very noticeable if woman's hour doesn't do something on this.

Walrussy · 23/01/2023 12:22

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 12:13

Not sure what interview this is from, or maybe it was asked in Holyrood, but what's a better way to publicly call for death threats to women? I'm intrigued:

twitter.com/wingsscotland/status/1617486584978325505?s=46&t=nque4Z_QZYHi1CODIZkbrw

"Sturgeon squirms around a question about placards about the demo on Saturday. "I would condemn the way in which those views were expressed." Is there a better way to express the view "DECAPITATE TERFS"?"

"Compulsory top top surgery for terfs"?

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/01/2023 12:28

VERY TOP surgery?

Imagine being unable to unequivocally say "death threats are wrong regardless of who makes them or why they think they are doing it. It's in the hands of the police now who I trust will conduct their investigation with due impartiality".

IcakedefargeIam · 23/01/2023 12:36

How about

Everything below the neck, has to go!

Or

Promoting drastic weight loss for terfs

Or

If you want to get a head, get a terf

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 12:45

Lynn Featherstone agreeing that IW is "more of a woman than JKR will ever be":

twitter.com/lfeatherstone/status/1617208213400850434?s=46&t=nque4Z_QZYHi1CODIZkbrw

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 13:08

"I would condemn the way in which those views were expressed." Is there a better way to express the view "DECAPITATE TERFS"?"

Shock

WTF!!! How do you think people should express their wish to decapitate women, you utter bampot?

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WarriorN · 23/01/2023 13:27

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 12:45

Lynn Featherstone agreeing that IW is "more of a woman than JKR will ever be":

twitter.com/lfeatherstone/status/1617208213400850434?s=46&t=nque4Z_QZYHi1CODIZkbrw

Wtaf

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/01/2023 13:29

It's using the new meaning of woman (servant of righteousness) rather than the old one (adult human female).

TheGreatATuin · 23/01/2023 13:47

WarriorN · 23/01/2023 12:09

May I just swoon for Mark Hamil, again?

👏

He's not removed it.

Three cheers for Mark Hamill. He's clearly seen the sunlight, even if he's still bring very cautious, but then it often takes people a little while to reach the summit. I'm glad he's feeling braver

turbonerd · 23/01/2023 13:48

nilsmousehammer · 23/01/2023 09:21

There is an interesting quote from the time of the revolution that I need to look up the author of, but it essentially goes:

If you decide that the sacrifice of one is worth it for the happiness of the many, then you will decide that the sacrifice of two or three is worth it for the happiness of the many. And you will eventually agree that the sacrifice of the many is worth it for the happiness of the many.

All these movements begin with identifying a group that are subhuman to you, and are disposable in your aims, and it is right to treat other humans like this if they have the characteristic that makes them lesser than you.

It might be their not belonging to your empire, it might be the colour of their skin, it might be that they're homosexual, it might be that they politically disagree with you.

The characteristic selected for shouting death threats and using them for sexual depravity varies across the centuries, but the behaviour doesn't.

Exactly.
It reminds me of the communist solution in the USSR also, where again no sacrifice was too big for «the cause»
which ended up with a completely totalitarian regime and the complete oppression of ANY dissenting thought.
Really not very enticing.

Men cannot become women. Women cannot become men.
dress how you like (within reason), colour your hair etc.
But no, it is not ok to exercise mind control. The thought police are not welcome in my world.

turbonerd · 23/01/2023 13:50

AlisonDonut · 23/01/2023 09:44

I can't really process that sign because one of my g...g grandmothers was indeed guilottined in Paris during the French Revolution.

Her story is well documented and I didn't think in my lifetime, the desire to protect women and girls and gay kids and autistic kids and non conforming kids would result in a direct threat of the guillotine.

It is the ultimate DARVO calling us nazis and so priviledged that we deserve to have our heads removed in a public space just for wanting people not to be mutilated and for men to stay in their fucking lane.

So sorry Donut.
it really is both frightening and dumbfounding all at once

Kucinghitam · 23/01/2023 14:02

Narcissist’s prayer, decapitation edition:

twitter.com/fisher_download/status/1617307102036299776?s=46&t=8HZvWvyTOW_DzCORZu6aww

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 14:03

www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/23268235.anti-terf-misogyny-contaminated-snp/

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ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 14:04

Kucinghitam · 23/01/2023 14:02

Oof.

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SinnerBoy · 23/01/2023 14:09

From Arabella's Herald article:

Those seeking to model Scotland on the doublethink of East Germany in the 1970s represent the dregs of political life in Scotland. They freely mix with and tacitly encourage men who advocate violence against women. Many of those who falsely accuse these women of transphobia do it for the sole purpose of justifying their own hatred.

Another right on the ball summary.

nilsmousehammer · 23/01/2023 14:16

Kucinghitam · 23/01/2023 14:02

How very well done that is.

I am most enjoying the desperate attempt that the (small) crowd mostly consisted of under cover pro-women attendees who had first gone under cover to the sign making workshop, and then turned up to make activists look bad. And the SNP politicians were standing smiling amongst a group of said under cover women.

How odd though that no activists or SNP people said to those undercover women 'those signs are awful - I will not stand anywhere near someone advocating violence' and just cracked on with standing with them as if completely normal.

And how many actual genuine activists were there if everyone holding a dodgy sign was in fact a woman there defending women's rights?

🤔

SinnerBoy · 23/01/2023 14:18

It's the same as the Trump supporters, who claimed that all the racists, white supremacists and militia members, who spent years posting vile crap and posing with assault rifles on Twitter, were all actually leftie provocateurs.

IwantToRetire · 23/01/2023 15:46

SNP councillor and sister of MP resigns from party over gender reform stance

Diane Docherty represents Clydebank Central on West Dunbartonshire Council and is the sister of SNP MP Martin Docherty-Hughes, who quit as chief whip this week

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/snp-councillor-sister-mp-resigns-28988899

(this may alrady have been posted, it is from a couple of days ago)

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 23/01/2023 16:12

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 12:45

Lynn Featherstone agreeing that IW is "more of a woman than JKR will ever be":

twitter.com/lfeatherstone/status/1617208213400850434?s=46&t=nque4Z_QZYHi1CODIZkbrw

I think it's pertinent to remind you all of her behaviour to Nimco Ali last year.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4504507-Lynne-Featherstone-on-twitter-words-fail-me

RoyalCorgi · 23/01/2023 16:29

Someone says she has identified the person carrying the "Decapitate Terfs" sign. I won't name them here in case she's wrong, but here's the tweet:

twitter.com/MrsLouiseWS/status/1617543506418962432

If it is the same person, then they have been in trouble with the law before. (The picture of them is in a paywalled article.)

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 16:35

RoyalCorgi · 23/01/2023 16:29

Someone says she has identified the person carrying the "Decapitate Terfs" sign. I won't name them here in case she's wrong, but here's the tweet:

twitter.com/MrsLouiseWS/status/1617543506418962432

If it is the same person, then they have been in trouble with the law before. (The picture of them is in a paywalled article.)

Well, if that's the same person then that's a rather worrisome individual

And most definitely NOT one of the Terfs of this world.

WarriorN · 23/01/2023 17:44

That's very much speculation at the moment I did a lot of peering and squinting earlier on

Waitwhat23 · 23/01/2023 20:58

Someone earlier on this thread asked about the background of the deeply odious 'Picklebee'. This is well worth a read -

wingsoverscotland.com/the-grooming-of-holyrood/