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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'

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ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 13:23

twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1616767482785632260

'Stewart McDonald, Kirsten Oswald, Kaukab Stewart and Alison Thewliss were at the Glasgow protest to support the trans community and stand up for Scotland's democracy.'

That's them standing in front of a sign that says 'decapitate terfs'.

Again, I'm genuinely fucking shocked. This inflammatory, violent rhetoric is not acceptable.

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pieceofpasta · 21/01/2023 18:22

Are the security services waiting for something awful to happen before they act? This stuff needs to be more on the news.

TiffanyBean · 21/01/2023 18:24

Justme56 · 21/01/2023 14:25

Just adding to the gallery.

Scottish Lib-Dem leader Alex Cole-Hamilton clapping there. Will be interesting to ask him about this next time he knocks on the door asking for my vote.

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 18:25

Considering anything Scottish parliament related was going to make the news this week i think we should at least pause a moment to consider the wonderful sunlight that idiot who wrote that decapitate terfs sign had ensured is being done on this debate.

Cheers mate. Good signing!

ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 18:31

pieceofpasta · 21/01/2023 18:22

Are the security services waiting for something awful to happen before they act? This stuff needs to be more on the news.

I am quite serious when I say I think the trans rights movement contains some very dangerous elements and women are in danger from some of these people.

Coupled with the threats against JKR and Posie Parker/Kellie Jay Keen today, I really am feeling that women in Scotland are at higher risk than ever right now.

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BloodAndFire · 21/01/2023 18:33

Hoardasurass · 21/01/2023 13:27

Ffs these people are supposed to represent everyone and instead are promoting the murder of women some government we have up here in Scotland

I think it's a myth that nationalism is OK or not politically regressive if it's a small nation.

VinoDino · 21/01/2023 18:34

@TiffanyBean I'd print off all the info on 'Picklebee' who he was seen applauding, hand him it, then tell him to get the fuck off my doorstep.

MarshaBradyo · 21/01/2023 18:35

I remember a poster being very proud of no hate because their country was ‘progressive’ on gender

There’s plenty of hate though. Extreme stuff against women being expressed

RoyalCorgi · 21/01/2023 18:40

These people are entirely indistinguishable from incels. The only difference is that you don't find any women supporting incels whereas you do, bizarrely, find plenty of women supporting this movement.

The police won't do anything. Death threats to women are considered acceptable. Imagine if that sign had said "Decapitate Pakis" or "Decapitate ners. There would be arrests, there would be outrage, there would be editorials in the Times and editions of Panorama. But because it's women - nothing.

If they murder a woman, which they almost certainly will, then there might be a bit of an outcry. But even then, I wouldn't guarantee it.

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 18:47

If they murder a woman, which they almost certainly will, then there might be a bit of an outcry. But even then, I wouldn't guarantee it.

And to be honest it doesnt take much for a man to want to and he able to murder a woman.

Anger present
Hatred present
superior strength present.

They don't need to stalk one, or bomb one, they can just go up to one and hit them. That's all it takes and a woman will be dead never mind a guillotine.

BoredOfThisMansWorld · 21/01/2023 18:48

Everything these male TRAs do - be it Eddie Izzard's complete ignorance on how a teenage girl would perceive his presence in a ladies loo; Lloyd Russell Moyle using his physical presence to intimidate Miriam Cates, in full view of parliament; or public threats of violence against women that are indistinguishable from those made by incels - make me even more certain that women need space away from men. In fact I think we need more space than the spaces we are already entitled to.

SinnerBoy · 21/01/2023 18:48

How many times have these kinds of nutter made threat after open threat, then gone on to do what they said the would? Racists, incels, religious extremists etc. How are the Police not keeping them on watch lists, or taking action?

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 18:50

@RoyalCorgi apologies i just appropriated last of your post without asking acknowledging you. But meh your a women do fuck it

Because I'm not a shit though top bit of last post is from Royals post

Beamur · 21/01/2023 18:52

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 18:25

Considering anything Scottish parliament related was going to make the news this week i think we should at least pause a moment to consider the wonderful sunlight that idiot who wrote that decapitate terfs sign had ensured is being done on this debate.

Cheers mate. Good signing!

Indeed.
There is real hatred being shown towards women in spades here.
Weaselly words from the politicians present here. As if they would have said anything at all to the people holding the signs.

ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 18:53

Signs from today's protest are apparently being donated to Glasgow Women's Library. Here is the Director of Glasgow Women's Library thanking someone for the donation.

I wonder if they would be happy to accept the sign that calls for 'TERFS' to be decapitated?

twitter.com/SueJohnGWL/status/1616828403625385991

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MarshaBradyo · 21/01/2023 18:54

Why is hate speech against women ok?

I don’t know why we’re not protected as others are

Waitwhat23 · 21/01/2023 18:54

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 18:47

If they murder a woman, which they almost certainly will, then there might be a bit of an outcry. But even then, I wouldn't guarantee it.

And to be honest it doesnt take much for a man to want to and he able to murder a woman.

Anger present
Hatred present
superior strength present.

They don't need to stalk one, or bomb one, they can just go up to one and hit them. That's all it takes and a woman will be dead never mind a guillotine.

There was a thread on here a couple of years ago called something like 'how do you think all this will end?' and a poster said that it'll end with the death of a woman.

I still think that the escalation of the violent threats we see made against women will end up with a woman hurt or killed but I now think it will be 'justified' by incels and TRA's because they've whipped each other into a frenzy of viewing women, in particular those standing up for women's rights, as subhuman.

WandaWomblesaurus · 21/01/2023 19:03

ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 13:48

Also Green and an SNP MSP. Protest seems to be absolutely full of politicians.

twitter.com/GillianMacMSP/status/1616785080201928708/photo/1

And she is the one who went on about misogyny in Parliament - beaming away.

Mollyollydolly · 21/01/2023 19:12

I'm not in Scotland, but do you have the equivalent of the Prevent Terrorism Unit, this is what this is, enabled by the State. Someone will be killed. It should be reported to whoever deals with terrorism.

nepeta · 21/01/2023 19:13

MarshaBradyo · 21/01/2023 18:54

Why is hate speech against women ok?

I don’t know why we’re not protected as others are

Someone said that sex is not one of the categories in hate speech legislation because if it was, the police would have time for nothing else but policing misogynist speech. IOW, it is so common that it is in one sense accepted as the-way-things-are.

These signs (the decapitation and the cannibalistic ones) could, perhaps, be seen as a form stochastic terrorism? I have read several TRAs argue that any gender critical argument or question, however, polite, is a form of stochastic terrorism against transgender people, as it encourages some unrelated people to go and attack them. So if that were true, then this would certainly qualify, as it is a direct recommendation for action.

VinoDino · 21/01/2023 19:14

Mollyollydolly · 21/01/2023 19:12

I'm not in Scotland, but do you have the equivalent of the Prevent Terrorism Unit, this is what this is, enabled by the State. Someone will be killed. It should be reported to whoever deals with terrorism.

Yes we have Prevent.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/01/2023 19:18

RoyalCorgi · 21/01/2023 18:40

These people are entirely indistinguishable from incels. The only difference is that you don't find any women supporting incels whereas you do, bizarrely, find plenty of women supporting this movement.

The police won't do anything. Death threats to women are considered acceptable. Imagine if that sign had said "Decapitate Pakis" or "Decapitate ners. There would be arrests, there would be outrage, there would be editorials in the Times and editions of Panorama. But because it's women - nothing.

If they murder a woman, which they almost certainly will, then there might be a bit of an outcry. But even then, I wouldn't guarantee it.

Incels are a recognised problem, now being half of the referrals to the Prevent program - though unfortunately that wasn't designed to tackle them. Reported yesterday in the times.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prevent-anti-extremist-scheme-must-tackle-incels-mp-warns-j5ptk7b2l?shareToken=70abd3014c9504a546d96828c7877689

The people assessing and working out how to deal with potentially violently motivated individuals and groups would do well to take a look at those placard-bearers.

Rainbowshit · 21/01/2023 19:20

MarshaBradyo · 21/01/2023 18:35

I remember a poster being very proud of no hate because their country was ‘progressive’ on gender

There’s plenty of hate though. Extreme stuff against women being expressed

They're so blinkered the Scottish Nats. The referendum was horrifically awful. So much hate. Families divided. People abused in the street, windows put through.

Yet the Nats thought it was wonderful., joyous, a beacon of democracy. 🙄

It's exactly the same here.

ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 19:30

'scratch a terf find a fascist/death to fascism'.

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Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 19:33

ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 19:30

'scratch a terf find a fascist/death to fascism'.

It's that the name of the new lottery scratch card ??

Scratch and find a terf symbol win five pounds. Find the fascist multiplier for an extra chance to win.

Endpress · 21/01/2023 19:42

Dear god. I don’t believe them. You’re telling us they’ve had no attending demo training or safety awareness that would incline them to scan the placards. Don’t believe them.