Page 17 | SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'

ArabellaScott · 2023-01-21T13:23:52+00:00

https://twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1616767482785632260 'Stewart McDonald, Kirsten Oswald, Kaukab Stewart and Alison Thewliss were at the Glasgow protest to support the trans community and stand up for Scotland's democracy.' That's them standing in front of a sign that says 'decapitate terfs'. Again, I'm genuinely fucking shocked. This inflammatory, violent rhetoric is not acceptable.

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/01/2023 09:53

I have no lingering respect for any woman who can go along with this.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 10:08

That Wings over Scotland article was enlightening. I cannot comprehend how Scottish Government has ignored this.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/01/2023 10:10

Will they manage to carry on ignoring it, is the million dollar question.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 10:12

Mollyollydolly · 23/01/2023 08:34

Have you all seen The Wings Over Scotland piece.
Bloodyhell.
wingsoverscotland.com/the-grooming-of-holyrood/
On Glitter's website too.
It's gobsmacking.

Wow, that guy is even worse than I imagined he was.

And they turned and applauded the arsehole in fucking parliament.

I hope no one ever forgets what these politicians have done.

Everything there publicly available and not one of those politician or theirs aids seems to have done any due diligence. Or even booked them opticians appointment.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 10:13

When you see the images of that individual in the Wings article with axes and knives and seeing the threats they post against women, I have no trouble at all thinking that it is very possible for someone to attempt to decapitate a woman because they view
her as ‘terf’.

Any person attempting to downplay or dismiss this needs to start putting the pieces together.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 10:14

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/01/2023 10:10

Will they manage to carry on ignoring it, is the million dollar question.

I wonder.

Sadly, I doubt it.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 10:15

Has anyone now created a graphic of this person’s threats, including axes and knives with an image of the sign? Not their sign, but certainly should wake politicians up to what is happening.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 10:19

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 09:37

You really cannot see yourself can you Pie.

You cannot see that over threads and threads now you have continually dismissed violence against women who disagree with you.

It seems you have allowed yourself to be so desensitised (you even use dehumanising terms for feminists with no thought at all) to the violence that even just drowning out women’s voices doesn’t register to you as intimidation- a violent act.

You repeatedly make jokes about acts of violence and threats.

Yet, you seem to think you have some kind of moral superiority when you post. It is a public site and you are free to do so. However, you seem to honestly believe you are supporting the trans community, or is it just you hate women who disagree with you? Because I am not sure of your motives. Are you?

I am sure that you either cannot see the misogynistic pattern of dismissing violence against women, because you seem (from
your own language) to have dehumanised them using terms likes ‘GCs’ etc that has the outcome of detaching women from humanity.

Every thread that you post fucked up posts like this on, dismissing the very real threat contained in that sign the way you are, just shows that you are very desensitised to violence.

Even if after the first post you try to reverse ferret, even from now if you first post ‘I don’t condone violence …’, I think I and others will recognise those for empty words. Because of your recent other posts . You can laugh, and deny and distract, but you really do seem to accept violent acts towards women when it is some you don’t like.

If you didn’t accept it, you wouldn’t post the posts you do.

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This is 100% what I would write if i had Helles patience.

But I don't so I'll just let you all re-read the excellent post above.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 10:29

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/01/2023 09:53

I have no lingering respect for any woman who can go along with this.

Oh completely.

For me I've got the point where I'm all ready for No Debate.

If you agree with the activists and the rhetoric pushed by them then you are a misogynistic woman hater.

If you try to excuse those signs, If you say you didn't know or you didn't see, or you didn't realise then you are a misogynistic woman hater.

If you refused to accept what we have been telling you for so long and you've refused to listen, just shut us down with transphobe, terf, bigot then you are a misogynistic woman hater.

NO DEBATE

SinnerBoy · 23/01/2023 10:31

ArabellaScott · Today 09:39

Agree. 'Terfs' have been utterly dehumanised to the point they are a completely acceptable punch bag or target for violent rhetoric to these people.

Your post is an excellent summary of the situation.

nilsmousehammer · 23/01/2023 10:31

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 10:13

When you see the images of that individual in the Wings article with axes and knives and seeing the threats they post against women, I have no trouble at all thinking that it is very possible for someone to attempt to decapitate a woman because they view
her as ‘terf’.

Any person attempting to downplay or dismiss this needs to start putting the pieces together.

Of course when these enabled, encouraged fantasies turn into actual blood, death, distraught families, court cases, the paid public servants will all be there virtuously distancing themselves and saying how awful it all is. Having nurtured it to this point and made it clear there's no boundary here... and not one here either.... nope you haven't gone too far yet.... yes, that's still ok.....

The entire lot of them need sacking.

GailBlancheViola · 23/01/2023 10:39

nilsmousehammer · 23/01/2023 09:21

There is an interesting quote from the time of the revolution that I need to look up the author of, but it essentially goes:

If you decide that the sacrifice of one is worth it for the happiness of the many, then you will decide that the sacrifice of two or three is worth it for the happiness of the many. And you will eventually agree that the sacrifice of the many is worth it for the happiness of the many.

All these movements begin with identifying a group that are subhuman to you, and are disposable in your aims, and it is right to treat other humans like this if they have the characteristic that makes them lesser than you.

It might be their not belonging to your empire, it might be the colour of their skin, it might be that they're homosexual, it might be that they politically disagree with you.

The characteristic selected for shouting death threats and using them for sexual depravity varies across the centuries, but the behaviour doesn't.

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Always dehumanise the subject that you wish to eliminate - we have Rwanda in very recent history, whereby those who were to be eliminated were first reduced to sub human status by being referred to as cockroaches.

Now we have the TRAs, MRAs, and the sycophantic and aggressive supporters doing just that - referring to those who disagree as TERFS, menstruators, bleeders, cis, or as @MargaritaPie does 'The GCs', remove any semblance of being a living, breathing human and the violent rhetoric towards them and actual violence are justified and meaningless.

And the reason for this dehumanising? Having the temerity to disagree, believing in reality, wanting to safeguard women and children, stopping an agenda that is determined to strip the human rights from 51% of the population - that is the heinous crime for which violence will be meted out.

Think it can't happen? It is happening, violent threats against women who speak out are dismissed, violence against women meeting and speaking is not prosecuted, it is dismissed out of hand, it is hand waved away with pathetic little soundbites as shown by several MPs and MSPs. We are at the brink, what happens next will determine just how much worse this will become.

All those who support this tell me what is the difference between that 'Decapitate Terfs' sign and one used by extremist such as ISIS that says 'Behead Infidels'? There is NO difference, it is extremist, it is calling for violence, it is terrorism.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 10:44

All those who support this tell me what is the difference between that 'Decapitate Terfs' sign and one used by extremist such as ISIS that says 'Behead Infidels'? There is NO difference, it is extremist, it is calling for violence, it is terrorism.

Spot on@GailBlancheViola there is no difference. This weekend's signs absolutely proved that. 100% . No ifs, No buts, No debate

Kucinghitam · 23/01/2023 10:55

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/01/2023 09:53

I have no lingering respect for any woman who can go along with this.

100%

FrancescaContini · 23/01/2023 10:58

I agree with you, @GailBlancheViola . We also have the vile Katie Hopkins who referred to Syrian refugees as “cockroaches” a few years ago.

Beowulfa · 23/01/2023 11:04

Imagine those Be Kind SMPs caught standing in front of placards reading DECAPITATE JOCKS.

MiladeeBeserko · 23/01/2023 11:31

Good article by Kevin McKenna in the Herald

www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/23268235.anti-terf-misogyny-contaminated-snp/?ref=twtrec

SinnerBoy · 23/01/2023 11:37

@GailBlancheViola

You have made an excellent point, comparing the different treatment of Islamic extremists, who call for beheading and these psychos. They need to be held to the same standards, whether they write it on Twitter, or cardboard.

FrancescaContini · 23/01/2023 11:48

Beowulfa · 23/01/2023 11:04

Imagine those Be Kind SMPs caught standing in front of placards reading DECAPITATE JOCKS.

Exactly. Replace it with a word referring to any other group of people and I’m sure those inane grins would soon be wiped off their faces:

Children with red hair
Heroin addicts
Striking nurses and train drivers
Gamers
obese people

Etc etc, at random

IcakedefargeIam · 23/01/2023 11:57

@MiladeeBeserko good article thanks for linking it. I like the bit about the other pressing matters that have been neglected, ignored or abandoned by these Politicians (independence, child poverty). I'm sure there was a metaphor in Gulliver's Travels, but I can't bring it to mind.

Or I imagined it

WarriorN · 23/01/2023 12:09

May I just swoon for Mark Hamil, again?

👏

He's not removed it.

WarriorN · 23/01/2023 12:09

That's made my day

IcakedefargeIam · 23/01/2023 12:11

His twitter has cats on a treadmill🐱

WarriorN · 23/01/2023 12:13

😍

Though now I can't find the like / tweet :(

Someone else reported it was there an hour ago.

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 12:13

Not sure what interview this is from, or maybe it was asked in Holyrood, but what's a better way to publicly call for death threats to women? I'm intrigued:

twitter.com/wingsscotland/status/1617486584978325505?s=46&t=nque4Z_QZYHi1CODIZkbrw

"Sturgeon squirms around a question about placards about the demo on Saturday. "I would condemn the way in which those views were expressed." Is there a better way to express the view "DECAPITATE TERFS"?"