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SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'

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ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 13:23

twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1616767482785632260

'Stewart McDonald, Kirsten Oswald, Kaukab Stewart and Alison Thewliss were at the Glasgow protest to support the trans community and stand up for Scotland's democracy.'

That's them standing in front of a sign that says 'decapitate terfs'.

Again, I'm genuinely fucking shocked. This inflammatory, violent rhetoric is not acceptable.

SNP demo - 'decapitate t*rfs'
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WarriorN · 23/01/2023 06:34

Gender ideology experiments on children, many of whom are autistic.

FrancescaContini · 23/01/2023 07:22

The references to and comparison with Auschwitz are of course ludicrous and absurd as well as absolutely appalling.

People who bandy around casual threats or encouragement to “decapitate” as well as using history’s most recent example of the unspeakable atrocities meted out towards millions of people are, quite simply, absolutely beyond the pale.

I’m so pleased that the mainstream media is finally reporting on this group of thugs because I can see that certainly as far as my own family and friends are concerned, the penny is finally dropping.

SinnerBoy · 23/01/2023 07:27

Boiledbeetle · Today 03:28

^TERFs-sign-JK-Rowling-mocks-blindness-posing-politicians.html
And it's hit the daily mail as well! Lovely photo of the sign.^

So, we'll probably now see JK Rowling fined for a disability based hate crime, whilst the TEZs get away with actual abuse...

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 07:31

How funny though, that those extreme trans activists and politicians supporting them didn’t seem to get the memo though. You know, the memo that tells them to ‘be kind’ and to not bring their movement into disrepute!

That these activists should’nt be using violence to threaten anyone, and threaten women speaking and to stop leveraging genocide and the Holocaust to emotionally manipulate people.

Oh. Yeah. Guilt by association only works one direction. And leveraging or appropriating other
groups is so well established by the movement that has relied on doing that to change the application of laws away from what has been written in Hansard as definitely not in the scope of the law, or creating new laws, that it is par for the course.

The double standards must surely be well understood by now.

applesandpears33 · 23/01/2023 07:38

This reference to Auschwitz and the Nazis is ridiculous. Based on their logic, if you go too far to the left you end up with Russian style gulags.

Motheranddaughter · 23/01/2023 07:45

There is no chance of the Scottish police taking action on this
Truly shocking

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 07:51

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 03:28

I realise they have to make a story readable but I did raise an eyebrow at this:

"The phrase appeared on a sign..."

It's a "phrase" now, is it?!!

DressingForRevenge · 23/01/2023 07:51

Tbf the nazis loved dressing up, being obeyed and oppressing women - oh, they don’t mean them do they? They mean us “who should obey”.

I am so angry that FEMALE politicians are doing this. Shame on them.

Mollyollydolly · 23/01/2023 08:34

Have you all seen The Wings Over Scotland piece.
Bloodyhell.
wingsoverscotland.com/the-grooming-of-holyrood/
On Glitter's website too.
It's gobsmacking.

TheGreatATuin · 23/01/2023 08:34

I think when they say they didn't see it, they mean they didn't notice it and imo that is by far the bigger problem.
Violence against women is so widespread that its become just background noise. That sign would only not be 'noticed' if you don't notice vaw.
It's a big part of the issue here. Trans women are only the most vulnerable if you don't notice violence against women. "It never happens" can only be trotted out if you don't count the cases when it does. And so on.
But these weren't random members of the public turning a blind eye to vawg, they're elected representatives making a photo opportunity out of actively campaigning for equality.
Every one of them should resign. If they couldn't see that sign, then they're incapable of representing women.

NorthernLights2023 · 23/01/2023 08:42

The real problem is that they chose to attend a rally knowing that they typically involve real violence or threats of violence against women. And they did this knowing that a trans activist has already murdered lesbians in the US. But let's not forget that there were also Green politicians and Lib Dem ones who were also there. All of them are there to endorse these violent thugs.

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 08:45

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 07:51

I realise they have to make a story readable but I did raise an eyebrow at this:

"The phrase appeared on a sign..."

It's a "phrase" now, is it?!!

It's an imperative instruction.

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nilsmousehammer · 23/01/2023 08:46

TheGreatATuin · 23/01/2023 08:34

I think when they say they didn't see it, they mean they didn't notice it and imo that is by far the bigger problem.
Violence against women is so widespread that its become just background noise. That sign would only not be 'noticed' if you don't notice vaw.
It's a big part of the issue here. Trans women are only the most vulnerable if you don't notice violence against women. "It never happens" can only be trotted out if you don't count the cases when it does. And so on.
But these weren't random members of the public turning a blind eye to vawg, they're elected representatives making a photo opportunity out of actively campaigning for equality.
Every one of them should resign. If they couldn't see that sign, then they're incapable of representing women.

I think unfortunately this probably nails it.

This extremity of unacceptable behaviour has become, as someone much cleverer than me said yesterday, 'not news, merely weather'.

This has just become normalised behaviour for this particular political movement, and those soaked too long in it have lost all sense of proportion and acceptability. And apparently a basic grip on right and wrong.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 09:05

It has become normalised.

When you have aggressive outbursts written and verbal from MPs, and a generation that has been fed the lies that they are victimised by someone not getting their pronouns right and taught this is an act of violence and genocide, and those acts justify violence, threats and hatred there is little room to move.

Those activists from the past decade knew exactly what they were doing. They dialed up the fear and instilled it into an entire generation who thinks nothing of their own behavior, because it has been indoctrinated into them as ‘righteous’.

Right side of history, innit.

turbonerd · 23/01/2023 09:18

CriticalCondition · 22/01/2023 16:41

I've been thinking about this very carefully painted sign which obviously took some time and thought to do and the choice of the word 'decapitate'. It's not exactly the obvious choice for a placard is it? It's quite long, not very catchy, possibly tricky to spell, a very specific means of execution. Why not dash off a snappy 'Death to Terfs'? I think it's quite telling that it involves the severing of a woman's head from the body, the separation of the thinking, feeling part from the collection of flesh. What's left is a woman's torso with limbs. The more I think about it, I think it's quite a disturbing insight into the mind of the person who wrote it.

Maybe they think it «allies» them with the French Revolution?

Which descended into a frenzied bloodbath with all the guillotining and decapitations you can wish for if you are a violent nutter.

»glorious right side of History» is perhaps what they are aiming for.
Violent hard of thinking, irrationally angry dude is the result though.

nilsmousehammer · 23/01/2023 09:21

turbonerd · 23/01/2023 09:18

Maybe they think it «allies» them with the French Revolution?

Which descended into a frenzied bloodbath with all the guillotining and decapitations you can wish for if you are a violent nutter.

»glorious right side of History» is perhaps what they are aiming for.
Violent hard of thinking, irrationally angry dude is the result though.

There is an interesting quote from the time of the revolution that I need to look up the author of, but it essentially goes:

If you decide that the sacrifice of one is worth it for the happiness of the many, then you will decide that the sacrifice of two or three is worth it for the happiness of the many. And you will eventually agree that the sacrifice of the many is worth it for the happiness of the many.

All these movements begin with identifying a group that are subhuman to you, and are disposable in your aims, and it is right to treat other humans like this if they have the characteristic that makes them lesser than you.

It might be their not belonging to your empire, it might be the colour of their skin, it might be that they're homosexual, it might be that they politically disagree with you.

The characteristic selected for shouting death threats and using them for sexual depravity varies across the centuries, but the behaviour doesn't.

CriticalCondition · 23/01/2023 09:25

Bloody hell. That Wings over Scotland piece.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/01/2023 09:26

I really hope someone in the mainstream media picks it up.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/01/2023 09:26

I think it needs its own thread.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/01/2023 09:27

Someone has just now started one

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4726401-wings-over-scotland-the-grooming-of-holyrood

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 09:33

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 21:25

In fact, it may be here from the time but wasn't noticed? Zoom in on third shot:

twitter.com/haddingtonsnp/status/1018108261080485888?s=46&t=5dO6AwdZT0cHl3npU6hkDg

'NO TERFS ALLOWED' in the sign behind Sturgeon.

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Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 09:37

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 20:17

Strawman much? Way to go and twist what I meant.

Anyway I hardly doubt anyone's going to drag an actual guillotine all the way to Glasgow's Buchanan Street to carry out the supposed threat. Hardly credible is it?

You really cannot see yourself can you Pie.

You cannot see that over threads and threads now you have continually dismissed violence against women who disagree with you.

It seems you have allowed yourself to be so desensitised (you even use dehumanising terms for feminists with no thought at all) to the violence that even just drowning out women’s voices doesn’t register to you as intimidation- a violent act.

You repeatedly make jokes about acts of violence and threats.

Yet, you seem to think you have some kind of moral superiority when you post. It is a public site and you are free to do so. However, you seem to honestly believe you are supporting the trans community, or is it just you hate women who disagree with you? Because I am not sure of your motives. Are you?

I am sure that you either cannot see the misogynistic pattern of dismissing violence against women, because you seem (from
your own language) to have dehumanised them using terms likes ‘GCs’ etc that has the outcome of detaching women from humanity.

Every thread that you post fucked up posts like this on, dismissing the very real threat contained in that sign the way you are, just shows that you are very desensitised to violence.

Even if after the first post you try to reverse ferret, even from now if you first post ‘I don’t condone violence …’, I think I and others will recognise those for empty words. Because of your recent other posts . You can laugh, and deny and distract, but you really do seem to accept violent acts towards women when it is some you don’t like.

If you didn’t accept it, you wouldn’t post the posts you do.

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 09:39

nilsmousehammer · 23/01/2023 08:46

I think unfortunately this probably nails it.

This extremity of unacceptable behaviour has become, as someone much cleverer than me said yesterday, 'not news, merely weather'.

This has just become normalised behaviour for this particular political movement, and those soaked too long in it have lost all sense of proportion and acceptability. And apparently a basic grip on right and wrong.

Agree. 'Terfs' have been utterly dehumanised to the point they are a completely acceptable punch bag or target for violent rhetoric to these people.

We know, us middle aged women, what they mean when they say 'terf'.

They've painted us as nazis, bigots, far right members, transphobic, beyond the pale. None of which is even remotely true - I mean, it's laughable when you actually look at the women at whom they're directing this term.

But for some reason large sections of the establishment have happily and tacitly accepted the narrative that any women questioning or refusing to agree with queer narratives or gender ideology are 'terfs', and therefore, acceptable targets. Self justification fallacy.

I've heard the contempt in responses from my elected representatives. The word 'terf' is unwritten in some of the speech of SNP and Green politicians.

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FetlocksBlowingInTheWind · 23/01/2023 09:39

Mollyollydolly · 23/01/2023 08:34

Have you all seen The Wings Over Scotland piece.
Bloodyhell.
wingsoverscotland.com/the-grooming-of-holyrood/
On Glitter's website too.
It's gobsmacking.

Holy shit. That was hard to read.
These people are INSANE.

AlisonDonut · 23/01/2023 09:44

I can't really process that sign because one of my g...g grandmothers was indeed guilottined in Paris during the French Revolution.

Her story is well documented and I didn't think in my lifetime, the desire to protect women and girls and gay kids and autistic kids and non conforming kids would result in a direct threat of the guillotine.

It is the ultimate DARVO calling us nazis and so priviledged that we deserve to have our heads removed in a public space just for wanting people not to be mutilated and for men to stay in their fucking lane.

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