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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transmaxxing

370 replies

pattihews · 07/01/2023 15:48

Article in Unherd by Mary Harrington about 'transmaxxing', a phenomenon in which young men transition because they can, not because they have dysphoria but in some vague hope of having sex with sympathetic women.

It's reminded me of Ollie London, who assumed that just because you can do something (in his case have surgery to make him look Korean) it's okay. No ideological awareness, no ethics, just a why not? kind of attitude.

unherd.com/thepost/why-are-incels-turning-themselves-into-girls/

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HootyMcboob76 · 10/01/2023 20:02

EastLondonObserver · 10/01/2023 20:00

Well, for starters, it is a bit of photoshop/deep fake.

I see the angle your going for, but it’s not relevant in this case.

Good try ELO.
There is LIVE footage of this person online filmed by students.
It's not photoshopped or faked.

Wish it was.

EastLondonObserver · 10/01/2023 20:02

HootyMcboob76 · 10/01/2023 20:00

Ah you made a judgement that THIS particular person isn't trans.
Your trans radar must be brilliant.

How, pray tell, are women supposed to use this radar in public when such a person walks into their private protected spaces, without being accused of transphobia, IF EVERYONE WHO SAYS THEY ARE TRANS ARE TRANS?

You JUST don't get it do you?

I made no such claims about this.

I just said when it’s clearly are a joke.

You are referring to situations where it isn’t clear.

So, it’s not logical to extrapolate what you have done from my point.

NecessaryScene · 10/01/2023 20:03

Looks like an anti-woke absurdist protest to me, so yes, satirical.

Ah, well, yes, there was an anti-woke absurdist protest that looked exactly like this - someone turned up dressed like the teacher to a school board meeting. But, no, that's the real teacher.

Protest: dailycaller.com/2022/10/13/commentator-dresses-trans-teacher-david-menzies-halton-district-school-board-oakville-canada/

Real teacher: dailycaller.com/2022/09/19/trans-teacher-prosthetic-breasts/

Protester got barred for life, teacher's still doing his thing. Same prosthetics, as far as I can tell.

ArabellaScott · 10/01/2023 20:03

If the teacher with the fake breasts is satire, it's okay for him to teach like that?

If he is deemed a genuine transwoman, it's okay for him to teach like that?

EastLondonObserver · 10/01/2023 20:05

HootyMcboob76 · 10/01/2023 20:02

Good try ELO.
There is LIVE footage of this person online filmed by students.
It's not photoshopped or faked.

Wish it was.

I know - I saw the footage. Typo.

my response remains though - it’s an absurdist gesture. But still not against any rules.

Helleofabore · 10/01/2023 20:06

EastLondonObserver · 10/01/2023 20:05

I know - I saw the footage. Typo.

my response remains though - it’s an absurdist gesture. But still not against any rules.

Is that the scuttlebutt on the trans boards then?

That this teacher is satire?

Even the film of them skydiving?

HootyMcboob76 · 10/01/2023 20:07

You STILL don't get it ELO.
It doesn't matter if it's fake or not.

BECAUSE THIS PERSON CAIMS TO BE TRANS THEY CAN USE ANY SPACE DEEMED SINGLE SEX DESIGNED FOR FEMALES.

They SAID they are trans, therefore they ARE.

It doesn't matter if they actually believe themselves to be or not!
Saying the words is ALL it takes.

Don't you see that?
Do you really think women are going to stand and have a discussion with every trans person that comes into their spaces to determine just how "trans" they are and if they pass the trans test?

Wake up.

AgathaAllAlong · 10/01/2023 20:07

These poor men are being sold yet another lie. The truth is that many many people do not want to date trans women. Lesbians don't want to, and straight men don't want to.

paulinesmithson · 10/01/2023 20:07

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ArabellaScott · 10/01/2023 20:07

So it's totally fine for him to teach dressed like that. Got it.

And rainbow dildo butt monkey? That is fine for kids, too?

www.spiked-online.com/2021/07/13/the-rainbow-dildo-butt-monkey-is-no-laughing-matter/

paulinesmithson · 10/01/2023 20:09

ReunitedThorns · 08/01/2023 11:00

This really sounds very similar to way heterosexual girls are transitioning (ROGD), both sexes are unhappy with how their sex is viewed in society and see a sex change as a way to escape that. With schools promoting gender ideology and gender stereotypes (thanks to material from Stonewall, Mermaids et al) children get into a mindset and a warped view of their own sex.

Incels need to go out and get a job. But perhaps that speaks to how bad job opportunities are for young people and how badly schools are preparing them for life.

We also need to be careful that most of this is American, so car insurance etc may be based on that country. I don't know how much of this incel culture actually exists outside of the US.

Essentially sex changes are used as a sticking plaster to cover up all the other problems in society.

This is incorrect, have you ever listened to a young trans person? Perhaps you should educate yourself on what being trans actually means instead of shaming people

EastLondonObserver · 10/01/2023 20:09

ArabellaScott · 10/01/2023 20:03

If the teacher with the fake breasts is satire, it's okay for him to teach like that?

If he is deemed a genuine transwoman, it's okay for him to teach like that?

so you want me to say:

no its not OK

so can say ‘well that’s the problem with self ID’

but it’s just one absurdist idiot.

who cares.

NecessaryScene · 10/01/2023 20:10

but it’s just one absurdist idiot. who cares.

All his pupils and their parents, for starters.

ArabellaScott · 10/01/2023 20:10

Perhaps you should educate yourself on what being trans actually means instead of shaming people

Excellent, can you tell us?

paulinesmithson · 10/01/2023 20:10

Boiledbeetle · 08/01/2023 19:02

Just went down the reddit rabbit hole.

So glad I'm not allowed to take hrt if this is the effect it has on you!

I find it disgusting you chose to upload a picture of someone on here to shame them, especially for their appearance. I'm assuming you're a grown adult and you should know better than this

ArabellaScott · 10/01/2023 20:10

NecessaryScene · 10/01/2023 20:10

but it’s just one absurdist idiot. who cares.

All his pupils and their parents, for starters.

Ah fuck them, though, eh? He's having fun!

HootyMcboob76 · 10/01/2023 20:11

I should imagine all the women whose space he invades "care".
And the pupils.
And the parents.
And probably most of the other teachers too afraid to speak out and lose their jobs.

paulinesmithson · 10/01/2023 20:12

AlecTrevelyan006 · 09/01/2023 16:21

The more I read about trans ideology the more convinced I become that a huge element of it is driven by sexual gratification and pornography. Tbh as a man I have found this thought to be rather uncomfortable because previously I was in the ‘porn doesn’t really do any harm’ camp. More recently i have gone off it and now believe that easy and ready access to porn has done and is doing serious long term damage to everyone - male and female.

I don’t know how we fix it.

How we fix it?

We stop labelling trans people as predators. We fix it by providing them with the support they need to feel comfortable to transition. Get your head out of the middle ages.

EastLondonObserver · 10/01/2023 20:12

NecessaryScene · 10/01/2023 20:10

but it’s just one absurdist idiot. who cares.

All his pupils and their parents, for starters.

There should probably be a rule in Canada banning teachers from mounting political protests of any kind in school time. It’s time wasting and distracting.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/01/2023 20:12

who cares?
Women care. Mothers care. Parents care. Decent human beings care.

The fact that people like you E L O don't care is no surprise.

HootyMcboob76 · 10/01/2023 20:12

paulinesmithson · 10/01/2023 20:10

I find it disgusting you chose to upload a picture of someone on here to shame them, especially for their appearance. I'm assuming you're a grown adult and you should know better than this

Get a grip.

Those pictures are FREELY available online, I'm not outing him, it was covered in the NATIONAL PRESS.

EastLondonObserver · 10/01/2023 20:12

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/01/2023 20:12

who cares?
Women care. Mothers care. Parents care. Decent human beings care.

The fact that people like you E L O don't care is no surprise.

See my response above.

EastLondonObserver · 10/01/2023 20:15

HootyMcboob76 · 10/01/2023 20:11

I should imagine all the women whose space he invades "care".
And the pupils.
And the parents.
And probably most of the other teachers too afraid to speak out and lose their jobs.

Sure - but in terms of the overall setting of policy on this issue, the actions of one outlier aren’t that important.

OldCrone · 10/01/2023 20:15

paulinesmithson · 10/01/2023 20:12

How we fix it?

We stop labelling trans people as predators. We fix it by providing them with the support they need to feel comfortable to transition. Get your head out of the middle ages.

Do you not think it might be better to provide them with support to accept the bodies they have? What makes you think that becoming a lifelong medical patient and damaging what is usually a healthy body in order to impersonate the opposite sex is the best thing for them?

ArabellaScott · 10/01/2023 20:15

Okay. Next outlier!

Karen White. Is real transwoman or satire or fake?