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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transmaxxing

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pattihews · 07/01/2023 15:48

Article in Unherd by Mary Harrington about 'transmaxxing', a phenomenon in which young men transition because they can, not because they have dysphoria but in some vague hope of having sex with sympathetic women.

It's reminded me of Ollie London, who assumed that just because you can do something (in his case have surgery to make him look Korean) it's okay. No ideological awareness, no ethics, just a why not? kind of attitude.

unherd.com/thepost/why-are-incels-turning-themselves-into-girls/

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/01/2023 17:51

We had an interesting visitor to the board a couple of years ago late one night who introduced those unyet knowledgeable about transmaxxing.

Yes, wasn't it the main poster on the transmaxxing subreddit?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/01/2023 17:54

There was a thread here a few weeks ago from someone whose colleague was male NB or whatever, was being demanding about his status and all. But the thing that struck me was he said he was 'thinking about becoming a woman' and would decide in the new year (iirc).

I came across some prick on Facebook like that, he looked like a total obvious man, very conventional wedding photos and wife. I think for some it's just attention seeking trolling or a way to exert control and gain power.

Boiledbeetle · 07/01/2023 17:54

Datun · 07/01/2023 16:52

Idiotic manifesto. It's all about sex a load of drivel that isn't true. And they will have fewer orgasms, not more. They're not actually becoming a woman!

Absolute idiots.

Although I can totally see it being a lifestyle choice, of course.

It's aspirational. Everyone around you walks on eggshells and you get to demand everything you want, and you can dominate women to your hearts desire.

what's not to like?

I wonder if that's why they hate us mentioning the "S" word so much? Because when you drill down that's what every single bit of this is about in one way or another, the whole lot of it.

terryleather · 07/01/2023 18:26

I wonder if that's why they hate us mentioning the "S" word so much? Because when you drill down that's what every single bit of this is about in one way or another, the whole lot of it.

Indeed.

Once you realise this is a men's sexual rights movement at its core, as many of us have been saying for what seems like forever, everything becomes much much clearer

ReunitedThorns · 07/01/2023 18:49

Transmaxx today, sex change regret tomorrow.

This is why a clinical diagnosis of gender dysmorphia is required, because these men will regret it and realise that they've been played by the system (TRAs, medical industry etc).

pattihews · 07/01/2023 19:00

I'm wondering if there's any upside to all these narcissistic idiots taking hormones and having surgery that will render them infertile. Hmmmmm.

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CatSpeakForDummies · 07/01/2023 19:17

Number 11 is really interesting "being able to extract resources from males."

It's so clearly the cousin of incel culture, where they are bitter about women not being anything other than ecstatically honoured by the attention of a cocklodger. They genuinely see any money, time or affection spent on women that isn't having sex, as a scam women are perpetrating against them. Horrifying.

Boiledbeetle · 07/01/2023 20:01

pattihews · 07/01/2023 19:00

I'm wondering if there's any upside to all these narcissistic idiots taking hormones and having surgery that will render them infertile. Hmmmmm.

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Longcovidshitshow · 07/01/2023 20:38

CatSpeakForDummies · 07/01/2023 19:17

Number 11 is really interesting "being able to extract resources from males."

It's so clearly the cousin of incel culture, where they are bitter about women not being anything other than ecstatically honoured by the attention of a cocklodger. They genuinely see any money, time or affection spent on women that isn't having sex, as a scam women are perpetrating against them. Horrifying.

Grim. Cousin of uncle culture indeed…

PriOn1 · 07/01/2023 22:07

Madigan was like this, I think. Unattractive but entitled young men have every incentive to make themselves seem more interesting and more open to the sympathetic attention of young women who feel sorry for them by pretending to be “trans”.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 07/01/2023 22:36

This post from reddit may be the reality for males who transition in hope of having a better life.

Transmaxxing
Hoardasurass · 08/01/2023 00:00
  1. People will treat you better if they think you are female. 🤣🤣🤣 said no woman ever
Rightsraptor · 08/01/2023 00:11

Women don't get cheaper car insurance any more. It was ruled to be discrimination against men.

SockGoddess · 08/01/2023 01:18

Most of it is “said no woman ever” really!

It’s interesting how this is all very much about being a male TW, not even slightly about being a real woman. I wonder how that goes down with the fervent TWAW types.

SockGoddess · 08/01/2023 01:22

And yes why do they think they’re going to get loads of great sex? Some basic research about what the wrong sex hormones for your body do to it could be a good idea.

Backstreets · 08/01/2023 08:12

Just endlessly weird. Put that energy into being a nice person and partner instead, lads. It'll get better results and the hair loss is inevitable anyway.

ReunitedThorns · 08/01/2023 11:00

This really sounds very similar to way heterosexual girls are transitioning (ROGD), both sexes are unhappy with how their sex is viewed in society and see a sex change as a way to escape that. With schools promoting gender ideology and gender stereotypes (thanks to material from Stonewall, Mermaids et al) children get into a mindset and a warped view of their own sex.

Incels need to go out and get a job. But perhaps that speaks to how bad job opportunities are for young people and how badly schools are preparing them for life.

We also need to be careful that most of this is American, so car insurance etc may be based on that country. I don't know how much of this incel culture actually exists outside of the US.

Essentially sex changes are used as a sticking plaster to cover up all the other problems in society.

pattihews · 08/01/2023 11:36

There's no such thing as a sex change. Sex is immutable.

I suspect, as someone upthread said about Lily Madigan, that this kind of thought process appeals to the kind of adolescent who isn't cutting it as a traditional alpha male or female — the plain ones, the low self-esteem ones, the short lads and tall girls, the soft-faced boys and girls with prominent features who worry about getting dates. I was one of those myself, I know how it feels.

I happened to be in a local town the day its Pride march was on and I was struck by how many kids who don't fit society's current definition of what's attractive were there in their glitter and green lipstick and hair and skirts and lord knows what else. I can see why a nervous, introverted, geeky guy who thinks he'll never have sex as he is decides to take the hormones, declare himself trans and anticipate eager-to-please girls throwing themselves at him.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2023 11:39

I happened to be in a local town the day its Pride march was on and I was struck by how many kids who don't fit society's current definition of what's attractive were there in their glitter and green lipstick and hair and skirts and lord knows what else

And that's great, but their chosen ideology is utter nonsense, toxic and harmful.

Thedaysthatremain · 08/01/2023 13:33

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2023 11:39

I happened to be in a local town the day its Pride march was on and I was struck by how many kids who don't fit society's current definition of what's attractive were there in their glitter and green lipstick and hair and skirts and lord knows what else

And that's great, but their chosen ideology is utter nonsense, toxic and harmful.

How do you know what their ideology is? Did you ask them?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2023 14:57

I'm talking about gender identity ideology. It's a general point.

pattihews · 08/01/2023 15:01

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2023 11:39

I happened to be in a local town the day its Pride march was on and I was struck by how many kids who don't fit society's current definition of what's attractive were there in their glitter and green lipstick and hair and skirts and lord knows what else

And that's great, but their chosen ideology is utter nonsense, toxic and harmful.

Well, yes. I thought that was so obvious it didn't need stating. But for the record the dressing up would be fine if it didn't come attached to a cult-like ideology that sucks young people in and encourages them to take hormones that will cause irrevocable changes to their bodies.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/01/2023 15:07

Well, yes. I thought that was so obvious it didn't need stating.

Yes I was just restating, not arguing!

Woodenheart33 · 08/01/2023 15:14

I've heard of transmaxxing, they want to become the girlfriend they cannot get. In my opinion it just boils down to porn sickness and autogynephilia and women shouldn't pander to it but instead heed the natural revulsion they feel, it serves a purpose.

Johnduttonsbuttocks · 08/01/2023 15:15

Porn-addled blokes with zero personal integrity.

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