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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women and girls' sex-based rights

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StephanieSuperpowers · 25/11/2022 16:21

Well, here we are...

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ExiledElsie · 27/11/2022 21:30

Kucinghitam · 27/11/2022 21:12

@ExiledElsie Was that the AHF film? Have you seen there’s a thread about it? It is typically infuriating that women get bulldozed, and the perpetrators claim that they’re the distressed ones.

It was Kuc.

I will be going to see my local councillors and writing to my MP about it, women should be able to meet. There has something gone badly wrong when we can't do that.

ExiledElsie · 27/11/2022 21:34

TinselAngel · 27/11/2022 21:17

Hello newbies. Nice to meet you.

You might find our website interesting if you've not seen it already:

www.transwidowsvoices.org

Do look up the trans widows info, tinsel is an absolute star.

CitronVert22 · 27/11/2022 21:38

@murasaki I think so. Were you to my left on the bench seating?

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 27/11/2022 21:39

There's a decent vegan cheese called Nourish (various flavours, including a startlingly blue blue coloured with spirulina) that we can get at our local shop, but I don't think it's widely distributed. Will look out for the London one.

murasaki · 27/11/2022 21:45

To your right as facing the bar, one of the early arrivals pre grabbing the tables

CitronVert22 · 27/11/2022 21:55

@murasaki Yes!

Saskihahaha · 27/11/2022 22:12

I got the cheese reduced at Holland and Barratt. Their Shamembert was like most vegan cheese a let down, but this is like stilton: honestlytasty.co.uk/products/plant-based-blue-cheese

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 27/11/2022 22:12

@yumyum33

I've put something on the Care thread back on the old place you may be interested in/know about.

MsRinky · 27/11/2022 22:16

Hello all. I'm not new to MN, I've been here more often than That Other Place for the last few years, and haven't posted there much since the heyday of the Sparklies, so few will recognise my related-username. That Thread was one of the few I kept reading, and have only just caught up with the whole debacle. Bit winded by the whole thing really.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 27/11/2022 22:25

I think rink dinks a bell.

Winterborne74 · 27/11/2022 22:31

Hi @MsRinky hope you can catch your breath here.

Some of the threads here are very funny. A good tonic after all that has happened. And I'm glad that @DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry has found her pals after all this time.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 27/11/2022 23:10

Welcome 🤗

As you can see - no drafty refugee tents here -Mumsnet is a mansion of many towers.

Someone above asked whether having children was a requirement here (because of the name)...

-well if it is, some of us have a few we could share on rainy days 😀

-I think that having a mother is probably qualification enough.

(Observation suggests that being male is fine - as long as you don't expect to be the tallest/loudest/ most listened to person just on account of your sex.)

LaughingPriest · 27/11/2022 23:34

As you may have already witnessed, FWR boards attract the more obvious goady posters. It's so tempting to argue with them but if they're clearly doing a drive-by-goad, not in good faith or glaringly illogical, the general advice is to scroll on by and return the discussion to the last sensible topic/post.

(It's all they have).

The questions they can never answer - what exactly do you mean when you use the word 'woman'?

How is it possible for sex and gender - two entirely separate concepts, one referring to a physical body and one referring to attitudes or a soul or personality or true self or 'femininity'/'masculinity' - to either match/align/correspond, or not match/not align/not correspond? What are the genders that match with 'female', for example? Is it not like asking whether your race matches your nationality?

There are more but these are the basic ones.

ErrolTheDragon · 28/11/2022 00:06

PoppySeedBagelRedux · 27/11/2022 12:35

Heh! I do miss the Boggle Drool & Sneer property thread ( the only one I do miss, to my surprise). Is there such a thread here or is it just occasionally someone posts a link to a boggle etc-worthy house in its own thread?

I've just noticed a humdinger you may enjoy.

TricyrtisJTT · 28/11/2022 08:35

I didn't know a Binturong was a real creature and have been looking at pictures of them. They have nice faces and remind of something that Tove Jansson might have drawn. Like this one: www.colchester-zoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Teddy-3.jpg

fenderstrat1953angelico · 28/11/2022 09:01

Merrylus - perhaps I'm mistaken, but hi anyway!

TricyrtisJTT · 28/11/2022 09:08

I've just deleted my links to the old place and will now make adjustments to my name to remove the reference. Clean break and all that.

fenderstrat1953angelico · 28/11/2022 09:12

ginmonkey

Your post yesterday about minding your language at the old place was insightful and actually quite sad. Sorry you felt that, and all the other women, and glad the mask is off!

oldplace

It's helped me, actually, to feel a bit better about the decline of the place. Once this issue came to the surface for everyone on the site, many were able to make their feeling known - and I'm shocked at some of the posters' cruelty and ignorance. I'm especially shocked at the blatant and apparently unopposed calls for - fucking hell - censorship and cancellation.

Looking around the oldplace, most of the people I enjoyed were on the thread of truth (or "shitstain" as it's currently known) so I'm hoping they will follow us here.

queer theory

Discussions of this were removed from the old place, because a poster (now here) apparently didn't like its direction. Maybe we could have those discussions here - is there any interest?

BezMills · 28/11/2022 09:16

Hi to all the Fugees.
I was known as Oney in the old country.
I've lurked here a long time, listening and learning. I'll continue in that manner. My best wishes to you all.
🍰☕🍷

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/11/2022 09:24

Discussions of this were removed from the old place, because a poster (now here) apparently didn't like its direction. Maybe we could have those discussions here - is there any interest?

You will definitely find a lot of discussions on this topic on FWR, but read the special moderation rules.

Kucinghitam · 28/11/2022 09:30

It's nice to see more exiles popping up! In view of this...

There was a suggestion upthread that a new muster-point for general exile-based chitchat, explanations of how to do the formatting and welcoming/handholding be set up outside FWR - in Chat, perhaps? I could make a thread if people think that would be useful? What might it be called?

Tricyrtis2022 · 28/11/2022 09:36

Good idea, Kuc. As for a title, I can't think of anything interesting, but it does need to be specific to avoid confusion. Maybe including the term 'life boat' might help?

crabbyoldbat · 28/11/2022 09:38

I suggested, and go ahead.

In order to be recognisable, it probably needs to have JTT in the title, unless there's something else you can think of that would be recognisable. I suggested JTT Exiles Chat 1 (because it may run more than 1000 posts!) - but I'm sure there are better suggestions. It would also need an opening post outlining what it is

fenderstrat1953angelico · 28/11/2022 09:44

crabby

I'm guessing that my mooted raise-a-glass-to-JDW on Friday is too far from you. But I'll be there anyway and perhaps moto too, so I/we will raise said glass anyway, and if you win the lottery meantime, hop in a taxi!

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