Women and girls' sex-based rights

[StephanieSuperpowers]

Well, here we are...

So what do you need omnithreads or special threads just for the people who came from the other forum for?

The best way to find your feet anywhere new is to acquaint yourself with the style and vibe of the place and then join in on the existing threads in the forum surely? Instead of being snarky, wanting special threads, bemoaning the lack of a block button and how it's not as good as another place, etc.

"Instead of being snarky"

🤐

I don't think we are being asked to move again.

No. I don’t believe that was vests intention.

I agree that it is sometimes vital to keep that community going. Obviously, this is a multi-thread board. I am interested to hear that MN made provisions for other communities, I did not know that. I watched as another community formed up here from Australia. The thread that was started was a mustering point , but they quickly dispersed and engaged throughout.

I expect many regulars here have now met at events and have their own communities separate to MN FWR. certainly there are enough groups in real life that are operating in that way, I know of a couple of regional ones.

There are ways to do it. To have both a stable place for yourselves and to continue to contribute to MN FWR as a wider community. If anyone wants some ideas on how to do it without giving away your personal details I am happy to have PMs if anyone is interested. It is easy enough to do.

It’d be a shame to lose your sense of community, and I understand that need well enough. I believe you could have the best of both worlds if you wished.

And seriously, a fucking block button?

How many times a day do we get accused of being an echo chamber?

I believe we all asked for an ‘edit’ function when the site was revamped. I think the reason to not have it was reasonable. The discussion here is sometimes robust about questioning what posts mean and their validity, an edit button means that someone could go back and edit a post and make dishonest assertions about other posters integrity etc.

Posters did ask for a 60 second timed edit where the ability to edit was only for 60 seconds. But we couldn’t convince Justine that that would be worth it.

I, for one, am in favour of killing this thread with stakes, beheading, garlic and fire.

By the way, how wonderful is it to have the implication that we are too young.

Fab!!!

It certainly makes a difference from the ‘you are all old and going to die out soon! ‘. Mind you, the implied ‘been doing feminism longer’ is not that new.

I am attempting to understand the benefit to the board to have the same information dispersed across different threads relating to a topic. Can you explain how you see that benefitting the board please?

I appear to be the only one who thinks it's a good idea so maybe it isn't one. My thinking was that the thread we used to use was more of a continuous meandering discussion which would pull in information from all over, a good percentage of it from mumsnet. I definitely found value that complemented the single topic threads on mumsnet.

I have been posting here for years as a fairly regular name changer.

It would be rude to keep any such thread as a clique, I was just thinking if I found value in it others might as well.

I've been reading Mumsnet for more than twenty years, and was always put off joining by the lack of synthetic threads, as well as by the prevalence of spiteful bullies.

How right I was.

If you see any bullying you should report it to @MNHQ, they're pretty quick to respond.

Organic cotton only...

There's no limit on the number of threads. There's no reason at all people can't have an Omnithread if they find it useful. I'm not sure why FWR doesn't usually have one, other than that with a whole board, and then another general feminism board, it's not essential. The 'Bunbury' threads sometimes served this purpose, I suppose.

Yes. Do report any bullying. MNHQ will look at the posts and the context and will delete anything that is bullying.

Most of us have learned the hard way that MNHQ has a low bar for what might be read as personal attack. They also believe though, that people have the right to offend others if it is not bullying and just posters saying something that others disagree with.

And the guidelines are also clear about making negative generalisations about groups who use MN.

If you don’t like the format, that really is up to you.

The 'Bunbury' threads sometimes served this purpose, I suppose.

Not really though Errol. Bunbury was a bit of fun and even activist posters visited occasionally. But it was not a thread where links were often shared that I can remember.

"And the guidelines are also clear about making negative generalisations about groups who use MN"

Including men?

Whilst I fully agree with the concept of a more general “pulling ideas together” thread for meandering conversation, I also think that this thread is starting to look like a bin fire: a bin fire of blazing buns: a bun fire.

I think if there is going to be a “general FWR” thread going forward, it has to be started by one of the recognisable FWR regulars, else it’ll become a bun fire too. In other words, it could only become a thing, if the longer-standing posters think it useful.

I think if there is going to be a “general FWR” thread going forward, it has to be started by one of the recognisable FWR regulars

Oh, so there's a hierarchy here then?

Gotcha.

That is exactly what I said. Have a medal. 🙄

Some animals are clearly more equal than others.

I think if there is going to be a “general FWR” thread going forward, it has to be started by one of the recognisable FWR regulars, else it’ll become a bun fire too. In other words, it could only become a thing, if the longer-standing posters think it useful.

Tbh I'm not sure I agree. FWR gets lots of new people all the time, and there are many namechangers. If an idea has merit then it should work regardless of the name of the OP. I'm pretty sure some of the threads which have persisted over a long time, accumulating info and being linked to, we're not started by 'recognisable FWR regulars'.

@VestofAbsurdity I totally disagree with the comment that was made about you, and think it really was unhelpful, but for context, it was a reference to the username of a persistent derailer in the other place and not about your personal characteristics in any way. A suggestion that the poster who made it would not have made if they had read more widely as I know you are a regular FWR poster.

FWIW I think it would be better to keep the Chat thread as the home for ex-talkboard types, where it sits along quite a lot of other ongoing community threads, and to head out into the wild in FWR. If an omnithread is judged as generally useful, it will get more participants if people aren’t sure whether it’s for an established group.

I do have different usernames for different threads as I find I want new ‘general chat’ names but don’t want to lose my identity on threads I’m a regular on.

I'm being very quiet on the subject as it's not my fight as a bloke, even though I obviously understand the anger of the women affected by the other side's magical thinking and severe censorship in the public domain

Also, please remember that the refugees from the other place are still in shock after over 20 years of being in a community

I'm sure people will blend in over time, but please give them time to grieve and feel they're in a place that can take over that role

*VestofAbsurdity
· Today 13:03

I think you need to decide if you are here to actually join in on Mumsnet and all it offers across the various boards or are you here just to use MN as a resource to keep your particular group and the thread you were on elsewhere going.

I'm here from the other place, but am watching & participating in about 20 other threads. I've lurked here for several years, contemplating joining, but what happened spurred me to do so.

I'm happily finding my way about the site, boggling at the AIBU folder....

Yes, some time and space. It may not have helped this thread to have a title which basically encapsulates the purpose of the whole FWR so all and sundry were likely to drop in. But now there's the 'lifeboat' thread hopefully that doesn't matter so much.

Say less. I know you mean well, and you're trying to pour oil on troubled waters, but comparing Vest to him (I always read those posts in a male voice) is actually far more insulting than how we initially read it!

Synthetic threads?