Women and girls' sex-based rights

[StephanieSuperpowers]

Well, here we are...

Good move Kuci

I'm still posting on some of the old threads in the other place and lurking a bit. Appreciated a recent post by Tag in the civil war thread, and smiled at the instant response by a n other.

Amusing myself by imagining a board, open to all, reactively moderated, generally left leaning, but with a strict, firmly enforced rule that all misogynist expression had to be corralled on one special thread and that thread only.

@Kucinghitam if you need to at some point, MN are very good about editing thread titles. You can report using the three dots and request they add the words 'whatever seems helpful' to the title.

Anyhoo, good luck everyone! You'll soon be sat in beslippered comfort.

Well hello, hope everyone is doing OK, I have logged out of Thatplace and thought I would join you.

Thanks pickle - I might just do that!

Welcome. Whereabouts did you post?

Welcome Shark, the water is warm! If you're interested in general (not women's sex-based rights) chat, come to my new thread:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4686910-lifeboat-muster-point-for-talkexiles?

Ah, Shark - hello!

Thanks! I'll probably be nicer here, Thatplace made me grumpy and sarcastic.

fenderstrat
I'm still almost thinking about it, but it's not very likely, I'm afraid. Have a great time

Hello! I forgot my username on here wasn't quite same as over there but anyway, here I am. Hope all are well or as well as we can be under the circs!

If the refugees don’t want to talk about it that’s fine

but I’m really interested in what you think the owner of the other place wanted or expected to happen. Do you think he thought you’d all stick around and keep your thoughts and feelings under wraps?

In the opening post of his thread on Friday, he said that if our conversation had been about ethnic or religious minorities, the perpetrators would have been driven from the boards by the rest of the users.

It's unclear at this stage what will happen next though if the board continues - some people have come here but totally not cut ties with that place (including me, for now). Not sure if the full-scale ban-hammer will be wielded in due course.

Lack of edit is going to be a pain for me! Can we not delete posts either? Anyway, that last one should have read "not totally cut ties" rather than "totally not cut ties"

‘Driven from the boards’

so he doesn’t care about you? He wants others to gang up on you on his behalf? Yikes

i wonder if his big problem was that people who believe sex is important aren’t actually the minority? So others ganging up on you and performing some sort of cleansing was never actually going to happen because the numbers aren’t right

Finally read through the hand grande thread on the other place. Sorry you were not welcome there to discuss legitimate concerns relating to your ‘minority issue’. Jesus fucking wept, the state of that thread.
Welcome to you all here - womb-carriers and non-womb-carriers alike.

The impression I got from the site owner's, um, rant, was a general anger not just at the posters on the Women's Rights thread but at the entire site for not having driven out the Bad People. So I think he would have wanted us gone. Many of the other site users said they would have accepted us staying but keeping silent on this one single issue.

(As I was already fairly long-established on MN, I didn't bother to stick around after I said I was going - in case anybody is wondering, my previous usernames sometimes feature the music of Tom Lehrer).

I think he expected an eventual consensus to emerge that trans rights are human rights, TWAW and that any other view is hatred and bigotry. He hoped that peer pressure would be enough to make the women realise that there is no conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, and that the far right, homophobic agitators who implanted the seed in women’s minds that there are any meaningful impacts on their lives would find that the women’s minds were no longer fertile ground for bigotry.

There was some discussion about the situation in the FU forum (one of the other post-Guardian forums), with one poster saying the situation was caused by strange middle-aged men obsessed with their 'legitimate concerns' about trans people. Moto defended us and got some spiky replies for his trouble. It's all so pathetic.

Report your post and request it be deleted. The three dots or a swipe left depending what device you use.

So if you really needed an edit, copy paste correct repost, then request previous post is deleted.

To be honest everyone here is exceptionally skilled at knowing what you intended to say

@fenderstrat1953angelico Hello, haven't we met somewhere before?😉

Being a middle-aged m*n with a couple of trans-women friends, I am somehow able to get on fine with them. It's the coordinated political pressure to erode women's rights when there is a conflict of interest that is the obvious issue (along with Mermaids etc). But that steamroller seems to be losing, err, steam over time as the inherent magical thinking required to sustain it meets reality.

I'm never going back to the old place after seeing a lot of the reactions.

@BezMills I bloody love your username. The lmagery that is conjuring in my mind is making me giggle.

I'm never going back to the old place after seeing a lot of the reactions.

Nor me. They really showed us who they are and it was ugly. So close under the surface too, as soon as JTS said his piece all the daggers were unsheathed and they were practically baying for blood.

There are a few I'm surprised are staying, especially one who is a woman and a friend.

But there are quite a few who seem to have been genuinely unaware of the thread of evil, or of the blow-up on Friday.

' if our conversation had been about ethnic or religious minorities, the perpetrators would have been driven from the boards '

Our conversation was about women and girls, so the women (who all used to be girls) and their friends (I know, not all the women or all the friends) have been driven out. What does he think happened? I do wonder was he drinking more than is sensible throughout the episode. All utterly irrational as well as nasty.