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Here we go again! Brighton Police want to interview KJK about a hate crime.

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ScreamingMeMe · 21/11/2022 19:02

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MsMcWibble · 25/11/2022 12:34

I'm not saying that she should be held accountable.
A marriage relationship is difference to political affiliations. I am free to feel that it would be difficult to sustain such a close relationship with someone who's views I find abhorrent.

MsMcWibble · 25/11/2022 12:40

whose duh

beastlyslumber · 25/11/2022 12:44

MsMcWibble · 25/11/2022 12:34

I'm not saying that she should be held accountable.
A marriage relationship is difference to political affiliations. I am free to feel that it would be difficult to sustain such a close relationship with someone who's views I find abhorrent.

You can feel whatever you like but this is too personal and not fair.

MsMcWibble · 25/11/2022 12:46

beastlyslumber · 25/11/2022 12:44

You can feel whatever you like but this is too personal and not fair.

Thank you for sharing your opinion.

AlisonDonut · 25/11/2022 12:54

My wife arranged a huge counter protest to protest against women speaking, and I forgot it was all happening.

Lol.

Happylittlechicken · 25/11/2022 13:00

AlisonDonut · 25/11/2022 12:54

My wife arranged a huge counter protest to protest against women speaking, and I forgot it was all happening.

Lol.

It does seem like something that might be mentioned in ‘what are your plans today dear’ type chats. ’

2plus2equals5 · 25/11/2022 13:17

How Sapphos manages her personal relationships isn't for anyone else to comment on unless they're offering support IMO. If women pile on Sapphos because of her personal relationships / life we're doing the same thing we argue that the head girls shouldn't do about KJK.

Solidarity Sapphos my DH is GC but doesn't have the balls to be out about it even though he's in a respected position and he could do a lot of good - ultimately the hard truth is that he's refusing to see how this will affect me and his two daughters becuase it's more comfortable for him to pretend it's a fringe issue.

For some that would be LTB territory but there are lots of reasons to stay - love, mortgage, kids. We all make compromises in a marriage - those who don't have to are lucky indeed.

I think that the (perhaps unwise) disclosure of personal details was to try and explain why she didn't take the mic at KJK's Brighton rally. Understood. There's lots of reasons women don't including fear. After what's happened in the US to some of the women who spoke up I'd think twice. Those opposing are violent thugs. They're scary. It's why KJK is a true modern day suffragette and incredibly brave and worthy of immense respect and admiration.

I do think that those WPUK / Brighton 'feminists' who have a hate page directed at KJK are bullies and should be ignored by the rest of us and it's legitimate for anyone to say they think they have no moral standing to lecture other women or claim they are feminists at all, really. Given Sapphos appears to be friends with some of these women hopefully her listening to our views on there might see some change? Ever optimistic!

Is the the same women targeting KJK who also bullied Lisa Muggeridge or am I getting that wrong? Same behaviour either way.

AlisonDonut · 25/11/2022 13:42

How Sapphos manages her personal relationships isn't for anyone else to comment on unless they're offering support IMO. If women pile on Sapphos because of her personal relationships / life we're doing the same thing we argue that the head girls shouldn't do about KJK.

It isn't because of her personal relationships is it? It is the bullying and harassment and lies about KJK that keep being poked into the conversation by someone whose wife instigated all this shit. She could choose to wake up and not bully KJK [who doesn't have a voice here so cannot respond]. But every damn time, she's there sticking the oar in.

I don't think it is appropriate to launch into what happened to Lisa to be honest. Again, she isn't here to respond. Let's leave her be.

beastlyslumber · 25/11/2022 13:44

100% @2plus2equals5

I feel very uncomfortable with the turn this has taken. Let's stick to legitimate debate/criticism/discussion and not behave like the very people we're criticising over their behaviour!

2plus2equals5 · 25/11/2022 13:51

Yes, I hope no-one thinks I want to get into the specifics of what happened to Lisa - I'm just wondering if there's a pattern of behaviour with those who have put up the sin page. I only wish Lisa well - she was right about a lot of things around safeguarding we'd be in a much better place if she'd been listened to.

Fine if no-one knows if the KJK hate pages is part of a pattern of behaviour or not. It appears there is at least one other who's got that sort of treatment from the same people and has posted on this thread herself.

I'm really shocked that those pages are public - they must be so convinced they're in the right so they don't realise how it looks (bullying), it's strange.

I absolutely think it's fine to criticise what Sapphos has said about KJK. I didn't say otherwise.

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 13:55

Thank you @2plus2equals5 Flowers

AlisonDonut bullying, harassment and lies? I'm not the one doing that.

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:03

For some reason people were desperate to stir the pot in Brighton before the SFW event. This journalist friend of KJK was messaging TRAs inviting them to come along and make videos. She obviously wanted the TRAs to cause maximum carnage in Brighton to make a good story.

I think these people forget there are some of us who have to live here and we are the ones having to deal with the aftermath.

Here we go again! Brighton Police want to interview KJK about a hate crime.
aweegc · 25/11/2022 14:03

Little did she know that would also be called a racist, an Islamophobe, homophobic, far right and all sorts of other things.

It's almost like trying to silence someone by calling them a bigot...only with a few more words.

Happylittlechicken · 25/11/2022 14:12

@SapphosRock how did you get hold of messages from one of KJK’s friends? How do you know it’s not the TRA? And to be fair, if the TRA didn’t want to cause trouble, they could have just…. Not turned up. Like sane people.

LunaLights · 25/11/2022 14:14

Those messages do not sound like they are from any friend of KJK….

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:15

The message is from the journalist EJ Rosetta

twitter.com/ejrosetta?s=21&t=aNPYXlPbM2-7pMCddzha4A

Happylittlechicken · 25/11/2022 14:16

So she’s bff with KJK and you just happened to have those messages…. So how does .KJK come into this? Are those messages from her? Did she know about them?

PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 14:17

Suspicious.

This person has recently written a huge thread on Twitter about peaking after being commissioned to write an article about JKRs 'transphobia'

It's gone huge. Even JKR has liked it. Some have been suspicious. She claims to have been a TRA, a Terf, then a TRA again.....now re-peaked.

No way this is a 'friend of KJK' - this sounds like an TRA activist or joy I trying to stir the pot

Here we go again! Brighton Police want to interview KJK about a hate crime.
PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 14:18

*journalist

PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 14:18

Where did you get those messages from Sapphos

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:20

I'm not saying KJK knows about them, I am saying that people tried to stir up trouble before the Brighton event.

This EJ Rosetta took pictures at another SFW event but was trying to mobilise TRAs in Brighton. Why? What was her motivation?

twitter.com/itsmeldaley/status/1550942776984059905?s=46&t=SA8It3RSgcINZOT-o_7wVQ

Happylittlechicken · 25/11/2022 14:22

You’re the one who said it was ‘KJK journalist friend’ @SapphosRock have you any proof they’re friends or are you just trying to stir things?

PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 14:25

Sapphos you definitely said she was a journalist friend of KJK.

To me, it sounds like she's trying to stir as much shit as possible definitely.
WHY are you laying this at KJKs door though??

PatsArrow · 25/11/2022 14:26

She's writes for the Huff post and Pink news.

Helleofabore · 25/11/2022 14:26

SapphosRock · 25/11/2022 14:20

I'm not saying KJK knows about them, I am saying that people tried to stir up trouble before the Brighton event.

This EJ Rosetta took pictures at another SFW event but was trying to mobilise TRAs in Brighton. Why? What was her motivation?

twitter.com/itsmeldaley/status/1550942776984059905?s=46&t=SA8It3RSgcINZOT-o_7wVQ

Because supposedly up until this week sappho that person WAS a TRA!!!

A TRA!! Not a friend of any feminist.

This week she has made a big deal about realising she was wrong.

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